Patrick,
We have a MiniContact system purchased from LPKF. I'm not sure if they make
it or just label someone else's product. This system actually plates copper.
Once we got the baths right things go pretty smooth.
I don't think I would use ink even though we only do double sided PCB's. The
last thing you want to do is chase material problems when trying to evaluate
a new design. It might be ok for slow digital or low frequency analog, but
the folks in Bedrock aren't buying much electronics these days.
Wish I could do more than nod my head and agree but my experience in this
realm is pretty limited.
Dan
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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TN] PCB Prototyping
> Hi Dan,
>
> We have the LPKF routing system as well, and we use T-Tech system for
> plating and lamination. It use conductive ink (to replace the electroless
> plating) for hole plating to connect all the layers, and copper plate on
> top. The conductive ink process is so unreliable. Every step has to be
> perfect to get a reasonable result, but you can't tell until you get the
> board done and test it. What do you use for plating, the Kepro system? To
> me, holes have to go through the proper plating process. Using conductive
> ink for multi-layer is just not right.
>
> I appreciate your response. Thanks.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
> "Dan R. Johnson" <[log in to unmask]>@IPC.ORG> on 10/28/2002 09:15:43 AM
>
> Please respond to "TechNet E-Mail Forum." <[log in to unmask]>; Please
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>
> Patrick,
>
> I was disappointed that this post didn't get more replies. We had a
similar
> situation so I was interested in the opinions of the experts. Although we
> use the LPKF system I think that our solution might help. We played around
> with trying to replenish the plating bath, eventually we completely
> replaced
> it and that solved the problem. It may not be the plating bath in your
> case.
> What we actually learned was that we needed to know more about the
> chemistry
> involved.
>
> I would suggest that you figure out how to evaluate each solution and
> maintain it. The system vendor may be less than candid since they are
> selling you the consumables so it might take some home work. Try to find
> out
> who actually manufactures the chemicals you use and contact them direct.
> They usually don't sell in the small quantities that you would use but
they
> may be willing to help with analysis and or advice.
>
> Perhaps some of the PCB experts on Tech net could suggest reference
> material
> that could help?
>
> Hoping you experience is less painful than ours,
> Dan
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> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:29 PM
> Subject: [TN] PCB Prototyping
>
>
> > Hi TechNetters,
> >
> > My company have set up a PCB prototyping Lab, with a Rapid PCB
> Prototyping
> > machine. It works good on routing and laminating, but when it comes to
> through
> > hole plating, it's a nightmare. The Quick Plate System just couldn't do
a
> > reasonable plating job. I doubt if the process it uses to replace the
> > electroless plating really works. I would appreciate any suggestions to
> improve
> > it, or what can we get to replace this Quick Plat System.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Patrick
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