Well put....

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From: b_ellis <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:09 AM
Subject: [TN] Copyright: hey, guys, cool it off!


> I believe that all the arguments put forward are valid. However, there
> is one point that seems to have been forgotten: precedent. If the IPC
> lets Earl Moon reproduce parts of documents without PRIOR permission and
> without a POST-challenge, then a legal precedent has been set. I could
> then reproduce every IPC document under my own name, sell them and make
> a hefty profit (by undercutting the IPC). When it came to court, my
> lawyer would then quote the precedent and argue that what's sauce for
> the goose is sauce for the gander. I can therefore understand Dave's
> message.
>
> In my experience, the IPC is not a wicked money-grubber and I feel sure
> that if they had been asked beforehand for this diagram or that graph to
> be reproduced, they would have said yes, on condition that
> acknowledgement of the source was made. Something like "(C) IPC 199x
> from IPC-A-600, reproduced with permission", in small letters under the
> figure, should do the trick.
>
> Moonman has placed himself in an unenviable situation, by infringing a
> declared copyright for publication. The elegant way out of this
> situation would be for him to eat humble pie and ask the IPC for an a
> posteriori permission, explaining that it was done in innocence. If they
> grant it, with or without conditions, well and good: in this case,
> acknowledgement would be courteous, even if not imposed. If they don't,
> then Earl will have no choice but to withdraw the litigious material.
> Also, it is not permissible to simply copy a graph, so that it looks
> different: the data behind the graph is also copyright. However, I
> respectfully suggest that Earl checks through his work to make sure that
> he has not incorporated any other copyrighted material (text or
> diagrams) by accident, because a multiple suit against him will be quite
> costly. It should never be forgotten that it is not a legal requirement
> to declare any publication is copyright, although it is wise to do so.
> Strictly speaking, even this e-mail is copyright, though this would
> never be enforced.
>
> I respectfully suggest we all cool down now, stop the vituperations,
> either pro or con, and let Earl and the IPC discuss and, hopefully,
> agree on terms without any third parties making life difficult for
> either party by morally pressuring them.
>
> Brian
>
> A question has been raised about references: it is perfectly permissible
> to quote a reference, giving the author, title of a copyrighted work,
> date etc.
>
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