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Earl Moon <[log in to unmask]>
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Hell Ingemar, I have everything this man ever wrote to us all. I don't
understand most of it but he already wrote the book or books.

Very positive indeed. Welcome back Brian. Now, big Ron Dieselberg is taking
a bit of unwanted time off for some plumbing procedures. Wish him well too.

Used to determine waste water purity, or lack of it, using goldfish in the
stream just before letting it go into SF Bay. Seaguls, eh? Or canary type
birds as in coal mines.

What a world,

NoMoneyMoonMan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ingemar Hernefjord (EMW)" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TN] Cleaning Solvent for Military Product


> Sir Ellis! Back on stage! What a positive surprise!
> What more to say I would do offline.
>
> Thanks for advice, always distinct and worth saving. Like Bev, I've saved
a lot from you. May make a book of your letters and make money. Like Moon
Man. He-he..
>
> Facts:  I'll check with Dr K Wack (not joking). Think we have adequate
equipment, 15 m long washingmachine with closed doors and lots of
ventilation. Hmmm...just wondering about the dead seagulls on the
roof...(now joking).
>
> Have a nice and calm and relaxed day,  will tell Paul Klasek and the
others.
>
> Ingemar
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: b_ellis [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: den 8 augusti 2002 10:18
> To: TechNet E-Mail Forum.; Ingemar Hernefjord (EMW)
> Subject: Re: [TN] Cleaning Solvent for Military Product
>
>
> Ingemar
>
> Vigon A200 is an excellent saponifier, but, like all saponifiers,
> requires caution in its use. It is very basic and is quite toxic. Unlike
> most organic saponifiers, it does not use MEA, but it does have an
> analogic amine, with more carbon. Operator protection is a must. It is
> also a VOC. I can recommend its use, but only in suitable equipment and
> with correct operator protection and training.
>
> Brian
>
> "Ingemar Hernefjord (EMW)" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Doug and Poh,
> > another good source is  this :
> >  http://www.zestron.com/us/index.htm
> > we use Vigon A200, waterbased, environment acceptable, for military
requirements, works rather well. But, as Doug says, there is no do-it-all
medium.
> > regards
> > Ingemar Hernefjord
> > Ericsson Microwave Systems
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: den 6 augusti 2002 14:30
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [TN] Cleaning Solvent for Military Product
> >
> > Poh,
> > It depends a great deal on what soils you are cleaning and what
> > susceptibilities the substrate may have (e.g. susceptible to water).  In
> > terms of alternatives to HCFCs there are hydrofluoroethers (HFEs),
> > hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs), and some aliphatic hydrocarbons.  I suggest
that
> > you talk to either Kyzen Corporation (www.kyzen.com) or Petroferm
> > (www.petroferm.com).  They are the experts in cleaning chemistries
> > available.
> >
> > Doug Pauls
> > Rockwell Collins
> >
> > Poh Kong Hui <[log in to unmask]>@ipc.org> on 08/05/2002 09:46:08 AM
> >
> > Please respond to "TechNet E-Mail Forum." <[log in to unmask]>; Please
respond
> >        to Poh Kong Hui <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > Sent by:    TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > To:    [log in to unmask]
> > cc:
> >
> > Subject:    [TN] Cleaning Solvent for Military Product
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I understand there are still many contractor for making Military product
> > is still using HCFC.
> > Some of the customer request us to use, for example Genesolv 2004.
> >
> > I wander whether, what other solvents than HCFC can be and commonly
> > used for cleaning Military board.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Poh
> >
>
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