Dave
a) where are you getting your hydrogen from? Most of it comes from
cracking fossil fuels and the rest from electrolysis, using electricity
from fossil-fuel-burning power stations????????????????? Oh, and when
you crack the fossil fuel, there is a by-product called CO2 :-(
b) do you really want to ride in a car with 25 or 30 kg of compressed
hydrogen underneath or behind you? Fine if there are no accidents, leaks
or other causes of explosions that would make Hamas, ETA and the IRA
look like amateurs.
c) how are you going to create the hydrogen distribution infrastructure
and who will pay for it?
I agree that, theoretically, new cars could be fuel-cell powered and
rolling off the lines by 2010 or thereabouts but we have much longer to
go before they can use biomass renewable energies.
If you wish to debate this further, may I suggest we transfer this to
the EnviroNet, which is there just for this kind of thing?
Brian
Dave Snyder wrote:
>
> The manufacturers make SUVs because that is what people want. The people
> have to decide to buy more fuel efficient vehicles to force the makers to
> switch their focus. Personally, I really would like to see fuel cell cars. I
> know they are too expensive now but that should change. This may be the only
> way to stop our dependency on Middle East oil. I guess another way is to
> make the Middle East the 51st state. That's kind of messy though.
>
> Dave Snyder
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kasprzak, Bill (sys) USX [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:58 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Cell phone antenna enhances...NTC
>
> Earl,
>
> Haven't you seen the TV ad where you install this gadget into your incoming
> air intake for your car that improves gas mileage by creating a vortex or
> tornadic flow. Let's see if anyone tried that one.
>
> I hate SUV's. Whatever happened to the energy crisis? Back in '73 they said
> we only had 20 years of oil left. That was 8 years ago.
>
> Bill Kasprzak
> Moog Inc. Manufacturing Engineering, Electronics
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Earl Moon [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:06 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [TN] Cell phone antenna enhancers...NTC
> >
> > How remiss of me not to know that. My hat's off to those high flying
> > freaky
> > freeway folks out there and wish them well, though obviously not wealth at
> > that mileage reading. My hat's off to you as well young man for bringing
> > this important fact, among all the others expressed on this vital, to me,
> > subject.
> >
> > Anyone working on a new mileage improvement gizmo? Hell, there's always
> > money in that and you know these things really work.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> >
> > Earl
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phil Nutting" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TN] Cell phone antenna enhancers...NTC
> >
> >
> > 6 MPG... I thought it was 6 gallons per mile!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Earl Moon [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:05 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [TN] Cell phone antenna enhancers...NTC
> >
> >
> > Damn well said Graham, if I might butt in. Let's do get you started on
> > SUV's. Damn stupid car makers have really screwed up a good thing and
> > really
> > hurt tire makers and themselves. Five billion dollar loss for Ford over
> > it.
> >
> > My opinion, counting for little I suspect, is all SUV makers should have
> > placed a placard on the dashboard warning idiot 90 MPH drivere, like the
> > one
> > that took me out, not to drive over the speed limit or tires will go to
> > hell
> > along, hopefully, with the ass---- driver. Those tires and wheels are way
> > too big for extended high speed driving. I like the 6 MPG figure for them
> > as
> > well when driving that way.
> >
> > MoonMan
> >
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