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Jack,

I had great difficulty in getting land patterns to "conform to IPC". If you
have a registered land pattern and it's in IPC-SM-782, but you then
check/compare it using the calculator/formula in the same spec, you get two
different results. Where is the conformity, I ask? Also, there are more
instances of no-land-pattern-information-availability than there are
guidelines or recommendations. As was said, component manufacturers do
their own thing, maybe loosely centred around "standard" package types, but
they often differ enough from the standard to make one suspicious about
using the "standard" land patterns for them.

As I said (provocatively) in my last reply posting, there are too many
permutations in board design, materials, assembly processes, component
package styles, materials and contents, operating conditions and so on, to
have a concise "standard" for all occasions - unless each parameter in the
overall CCA universe becomes standard/fixed. What we have are workable
compromises that suit most groups of parameters. It's towards the more
extreme CCA applications and environments that these compromises start to
break down.

I believe there's still a ways to go before 'art' changes to 'science'.

Peter




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Great question!
We have wasted SO much time designing custom libraries
for specific vendors, its to the point of being ridiculous.

Here is what I would do if I was starting over:
- Design to IPC unless I had a GOOD reason not to.
- NEVER use a component data sheet. can't trust 'em.
- If a vendor had a reason supported by SCIENTIFIC
  DATA to suggest a change, DOCUMENT IT!

The ideal (in my opinion) would be to say "All footprints
conform to IPC with the exception of..." and for those
exceptions explain WHY YOU CHANGED IT. (including
high density versions, wave solder alternates, whatever)

best wishes,
Jack

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From: Earl Moon [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:03 PM
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Subject: [TN] IPC SMT FOOTPRINT DESIGN GUIDLINES VS SUPPLIERS


Folks,

Just a simple question really. How many folks use IPC SMT footprint
guidelines compared with supplier recommendations? There often is quite a
difference. As everyone on this planet uses IPC acceptance criteria, why
shouln't everyone use IPC design guidelines but for component supplier
liability issues?

MoonMan

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