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Unfortunately, the fab house said that they did this before.  After trying
(and failing), they said that they didn't want it anymore.  The Sales guy is
forcing them into trying some more.  Obviously, we're not buying these
boards from them.  I hope they're not listening...  we haven't told them
yet.
Jim Marsico
Senior Engineer
Production Engineering
EDO Electronics Systems Group
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631-595-5879


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Hinners Hans M Civ WRALC/LUGE
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        Sent:   Friday, March 08, 2002 12:21 PM
        To:     [log in to unmask]
        Subject:        Re: [TN] CIC... ONCE AGAIN

        Hey Jim,

        I'm curious.  Did you hear, "no problem . . . " from the Fab house
or the
        Sales guy?  You're giving me flashbacks, Sales booked a new order
(with
        material we haven't even played with) and us Fab Engineers developed
a new
        process on the fly - for a quick turn!  Fortunately, my lamination
stuff
        usually required only minor tweaking.  I feel your pain.

        Hans

        Gunship Motto: "You can run  . . . but you'll only die tired."
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        Hans M. Hinners
        Electronics Engineer
        Warner Robins - Air Logistics Center (WR-ALC/LUGE)
        226 Cochran Street
        Robins AFB GA 31098-1622

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        -----Original Message-----
        From: Marsico, James [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:07 PM
        To: [log in to unmask]
        Subject: [TN] CIC... ONCE AGAIN


        Remember all of those e-mails back in November regarding MLBs with
CIC
        layers?  Well, it's time again...  We went ahead and designed a CIC
board,
        mainly because our present board house said "no problem, we do it
all the
        time".  Well, he fell on his face and now, 3 months after placing
the order,
        he can't deliver.  Obviously, he has little, if any, experience with
CIC.
        His problem is "...inserting the invar material into the copper
tanks kills
        the solution and provide no plating".  He is suggesting gold plating
the
        vias first, then copper plating.  Has anyone ever heard of this
before?  Is
        this a viable solution?  Anyway, we're now looking for a new board
supplier
        who HAS experience with CIC.  Any recommendations?  This is a
prototype run
        of 5 boards only.

        Thanks again for all your help,

        Jim Marsico
        Senior Engineer
        Production Engineering
        EDO Electronics Systems Group
        [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
        631-595-5879


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