Could you send the path to Steve Gregorys' site, again.
Thanks
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From: Earl Moon [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:37 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] BEFORE ISO
Just for some serious giggles, I offer information about a world before ISO.
I've kept a copy of MIL-Q-9858A almost from its creation and implementation
at the shown revision level (AAAAAAAA) in 1965. It worked so well for so
many it never needed revising. How about that? I asled Steve Gregory to
kindly post a .jpg image of page one on his great site.
If you even thought of doing business with the US Goverment, and its various
agencies and sub contractors, you had to meet the shall requirements in all
11 pages (11 pages - how hard could that have been?).
The qualification process involved using a little audit procedure/handbook,
with a few clearly defined check-lists. This was MIL-HDBK-50A. I lost my
copy of the little devil so our good friend Steve Sauer scanned and sent me
the entire document. It was a little longer at 55 pages. If you got past the
audit process, administered by folks like Steve S. you were approved to SEEK
business with government contractors. The hook was, each contractor you
sought business from had its set of rules and the qualification process
became that much harder though that little handbook was always in the hands
of the auditor. Your customers, as an example, often had procurement folks
relishing the chance to put you out of business when you accepted and failed
at an attempt at a conract. Exciting times, eh?
I also asked Steve Gregory to place two .jpg images on his site. They
represent some very simple questions concerning a suppliers ability, or not,
to provide acceptable product meeting customer/government specified contract
requirements. Don't forget the statement of work (SOW) suppliers had to
provide showing exactly how success was to be accomplished.
I just wanted to bring this up because, first, it's fun to look back on an
exciting time when creativity was not stifled by rules but imense progress
was made such as a lunar landing or two without benefit of today's
"modern/advanced" technology and freedom to just do it without always
thinking about how to do it right the first time.
Anyway, I hope all those, and others, might find reading these few pages on
Steve's site. I sure hope this makes us all think how these MIL documents
evolved almost word for word and requirement int ISO 9000 and how much
easier it is to succed in this times when a GOOD quality system is in place
and functioning well.
I would only add, in such declining and near dire economic times for many,
folks are starting to look to the government for their incomes. Steve
Gregory has attested to that most recently. It certainly has made me look
more seriously about my future and how to participate in the emerging
military market place. It might behove (is that a word?) some others to do
the same. It's fun, profitable, and you get to make things that go boom.
Earl Moon
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