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Just for your information, one of our board suppliers recommends baking for
2 hours for every month of storage (up to 24 hours) at a temperature above
boiling.  They even suggest a vacuum bake, if available!

Jim Marsico
Senior Engineer
Production Engineering
EDO Electronics Systems Group
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631-595-5879

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        From:   <Peter George Duncan> [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent:   Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:44 PM
        To:     [log in to unmask]
        Subject:        Re: [TN] PWB Moisture

        This isn't a very useful response, perhaps, but the question is an
        interesting one. I offer some additional considerations/mind benders
when
        contemplating the answer to this:

        1) Moisture absorbtion depends on the material(s) the board is made
from,
        and the overall amount of moisture absorbed will be related to the
volume
        of the materials used.
        2) The material volume depends on the board design and is therefore
a bit
        variable.
        3) Opportunity to absorb moisture depends on humidity, temperature
and
        time.
        4) Tracking moisture exposure depends on having an army of
arithmeticians
        or alternatively a tracking system such as our friend Francois
Monette has
        to offer.

        What we need here is some way of determining a Moisture Sensitivity
        Category for the various materials and their combinations, as used
by
        component manufacturers and a means of determining the rate of
moisture
        take-up for any given design - quite a career for somebody.

        On the other hand, you can simply pursuade your fab house to pack
your
        nice, new, dry boards in individual sealed bags with some desiccant
that
        you don't open until the moment you need them (or reseal properly
after
        in-coming inspection) on the line. If the boards have been lying
around for
        a year or so (in their sealed bags), and/or you're in any doubt
about how
        dry the boards are, you can then bake them out for about 2 hours at
90 deg
        C just prior to use. This last has been common practice for many
years,
        although I object on principle to having to do this - one more
thermal
        excursion too many for the board.

        Call me old-fashioned, but why look for ways to make life so
complicated,
        when a little management and control can save a lot of unnecessary
effort
        and cost? (Sorry, Francois!).

        Peter Duncan




                            MAURY HARRIS
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                            Sent by:             Aero/ST Group)
                            TechNet              Subject:     [TN] PWB
Moisture
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                            01/16/02
                            04:05 AM
                            Please
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                            MAURY HARRIS






        Anyone,

        What is the max absorbed moisture a PWB may have prior to reflow
soldering?
        Also, what IPC or Mil-Spec addresses PWB moisture?

        Thank you,

        Maury Harris
        EFTC-SCO Engineering
        602 282-5179
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