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George

But the phosphoric acid in your Diet Pepsi may give you Red Plague :-)

Brian

"Wenger, George M." wrote:
>
> I've only had one diet Pepsi but our experience agrees with Doug's; No
> it doesn't, no it doesn't, no it's not, yes it will, and no you don't,
> respectively.
>
> Regards,
> George
>
> George M. Wenger (908)-546-4531 [log in to unmask]
> Celiant Corporation
> 40 Technology Drive
> Warren, New Jersey 07059
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:43 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Red plaque on Silver plated wire?
>
> David Douthit exclaims:
>
> First; trying to grow dendrites in a 85/85 environment is difficult at
> best. Dendrites
> require liquid water. the free energy at 85 degrees C is to high. It
> will
> not allow a liquid
> water film to form. you must be below 40 degrees C to ensure the
> formation
> of liquid water.
>
> Doug Pauls, well into his second Mt. Dew of the day, responds:
> No it doesn't, no it doesn't, no it's not, yes it will, and no you
> don't,
> respectively.
>
> It is not hard to grow dendrites, I do it frequently.  Anyone who does
> SIR
> testing will say the same.  I've even grown dendrites on gold samples.
> Dendritic growth takes moisture, bias and an ionic contaminant.  The
> greater the magnitude of these factors, the greater the propensity for
> dendritic growth.  Yes, most dendritic growth requires liquid water, but
> you only need a few molecular thicknesses to do this, which is easily
> attained at 85/85.  Yes, liquid water can form at 85/85.  All you need
> is a
> 1-2 degree difference in temperature between the environment and your
> substrate and poof, water.   When water forms, temperature wise, depends
> on
> the relative humidity and the temperature.  SIR testers, if they have
> done
> it long enough, have had an occasion where power goes out on the chamber
> and the temperature drop while the humidity remains high.  You rapidly
> reach the dew point well above 40C.
>
> I'm sure Brother Ellis in Cyprus can expound on the physics in greater
> depth.
>
> Doug Pauls
> Rockwell Collins
>
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