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Tile it . . .
Just like the space shuttle

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Albin, David [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
                Sent:   Tuesday, August 14, 2001 11:43 AM
                To:     [log in to unmask]
                Subject:        Re: [TN] Off-Topic - coatings for
airplane-home

                Aha!
                        and the eggshells could make a nice mosaic
motif......

                David Albin
                Coates Circuit Products

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Mike Fenner [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
                Sent: 14 August 2001 09:11
                To: [log in to unmask]
                Subject: Re: [TN] Off-Topic - coatings for airplane-home


                A slightly more environmentally friendly way of doing this
might be to paint
                the thing with raw egg yolks and leave out to bake in the
Sunshine which I
                understand you fellows also have in the USA. The sulphides
in the egg should
                give a nice matt black finish. The whites should contribute
to a nice
                meringue which in accordance with Eric's observations will
be the biggest in
                the World. [However please dispose of the eggshells
considerately]

                Mike

                -----Original Message-----
                From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Eric
Dawson
                Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:23 AM
                To: [log in to unmask]
                Subject: Re: [TN] Off-Topic - coatings for airplane-home


                Good Morning,
                We chaps here in foggy England are always being told that
everything in the
                States is bigger and better, so why not find a plating shop
with a large
                tank and anodise the fuselage? Lots of jolly colours to
choose from as well!
                Regards
                Eric the Cad

                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: Crepeau, Phil [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
                > Sent: 13 August 2001 23:33
                > To:   [log in to unmask]
                > Subject:      Re: [TN] Off-Topic - coatings for
airplane-home
                >
                > hi,
                >
                > i've seen articles about you weird people in wobeoregon
doing this.  why
                > not ask somebody up there that has already done this?
kapton makes a
                > pretty good tape, but not much as a coating.
                >
                > why not use a catlyzed polyurethane coating which is what
the military
                > uses to paint their non-stealthy aircraft?  you should
know, however, that
                > this will cause an unacceptable number of trees and
wildlife (including
                > humans)to expire.
                >
                > why not ditch the 727 and build a sod hut?
                >
                > phil
                >
                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: Carl VanWormer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
                > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:59 PM
                > To: [log in to unmask]
                > Subject: [TN] Off-Topic - coatings for airplane-home
                >
                >
                > Definitely off-topic, but interesting . . .
                >
                > I have a friend who is making his new home out of a 727
airplane (see
                > www.AirplaneHome.com <http://www.AirplaneHome.com>  for
details).  He is
                > investigating coatings he might use to "paint the house",
and has rejected
                > his first choice (Kapton) when he found that it
deteriorates when exposed
                > to
                > UV and Oxygen (I think that was what it was).   Since I've
seen some
                > amazing
                > insights shared on this group, I thought I'd dangle this
challenge in
                > front
                > of the group to see what happens . . .  Any (and all)
suggestions will be
                > appreciated and investigated.  Please let me know of your
suggestions and
                > I'll forward them to him.
                >
                > Thanks
                >
                > Carl Van Wormer
                > Cipher Systems
                > 1815 NW 169th Place, Suite 5010
                > Beaverton, OR  97006
                > Phone (503)-617-7447    Fax (503)-617-6550
                >
                >
                >
                > p.s.  here's a snippet from my last contact with the
airplane/home owner:
                > Hot dog, thanks very much.  I've always been very fond of
RTVs - they seem
                > more stable than any conventional paint, or any other
coating short of
                > Teflon.  I've never in my life seen any evidence of any
form of
                > deterioration
                > of RTVs, and they've been around since I was a kid.  I've
always thought
                > they'd make a great roof coating for my mobile home (back
when maintenance
                > of
                > the structure would've been justified) or the freight
vans.
                >
                > The timing is quite good too in that I've been thinking
about coatings
                > again.
                >  I've been pressure washing again in the last few days,
and I've noted
                > that,
                >
                > while the color coats often flake off, the chromates
don't, although they
                > can
                > bleed off.  That is, the chromates seem to form a chemical
bond with the
                > aluminum, whereas the paint just forms an adhesive bond,
which, like all
                > adhesive bonds, is unreliable.  When the pressurized water
is forced onto
                > the
                > chromate at its most aggressive (with the wand within a cm
or two of the
                > surface), the chromate sometimes get fainter and fainter
as if they're
                > being
                >
                > abraded off.  But they never peel.  That's impressive.
                >
                > And that's what I'd like in a coating - a true chemical
bond, so that it's
                > literally part of the metal, not just a layer over the
metal.  Well, that,
                > plus absolute immunity to UV, chemical weathering, and
every other factor
                > that makes a coating just plain perfect.
                >
                > Teflon's been on my mind too.  It's extremely stable of
course.  But I'm
                > not
                >
                > sure what the nature of it's bond is, or what the
economics are - I need
                > to
                > look into it.
                >
                >
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