Shame James,

I've found, over the years, at least four test guys that actually talk to,
or are included in, DFM folks/meetings. Sometimes, it is required that these
people leave their hot/cold tools at home for repairs, or other fun things,
there.

Often, in anti-manufacturing environments (most everywhere), test folks are
encouraged to point fingers at design and manufacturing types while
providing evidence via neandrathal (spelling please - so I know if I am
one). Damn shame James.

MoonMan

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