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P.S. Just a little banal excursion into the meaning of words... :)

"Printing," Microsoft® Encarta® Online Encyclopedia 2001
http://encarta.msn.com © 1997-2000 Microsoft Corporation. All Rights
Reserved.

Printing, name used for several processes by which words, pictures, or
designs are reproduced on paper, fabrics, metal, or other suitable
materials. These processes, sometimes called the graphic arts, consist
essentially of making numerous identical reproductions of an original by
mechanical means, and the printed book has thus been called the first mass
product.

The history of printing, which by its very nature is the most thoroughly
documented of any history, is practically identical with that of relief, or
letterpress, printing (printing from a raised surface). Historically, the
bulk of all printing has been produced by this entirely mechanical method.
Modern printing, however, increasingly relies on photomechanical and
chemical processes.
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Encarta® World English Dictionary [North American Edition] © & (P) 2001
Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Developed for Microsoft by Bloomsbury Publishing Plc. 

print·ed cir·cuit (plural print·ed cir·cuits) noun 
circuit with printed connections:  an electronic circuit in which some
components and the connections between them are formed by etching a metallic
coating on one or both sides of an insulating board

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So fundamentally, the act of "Printing" is the reproduction of an original
image by any means that reproduces it onto any given surface... i.e. the act
of copying...
I think that the reproduction of original printed circuit artwork on the
surface of a copper laminate board fits that description quite well...by
what ever means is necessary...Photolithography, screen printing, resist
pen, stone knives and chisels...etc...  :)

(This kind of discussion reminds me of the old question... is the glass half
empty or half full?..... Really, it depends on whether you are pouring... or
drinking, doesn't it....) 


- Bill Brooks, C.I.D.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 3:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [DC] PCB or PWB: which is correct?


Good explanation Mary.... Just one footnote....

I used to make printed circuit boards... using a printing process... screen
printing, much like the way we put the component legend on our "silkscreen"
layer. We used fine stainless steel screen material stretched in an aluminum
screen frame and used a black ink that was applied using a squeegee onto the
bare copper surface through a lithographic photo mask that was embedded into
the screen. This left a fairly accurate image resist on the surface of the
board... when etched, it was removed with ammonia and water and a scrub
brush...
So ... Printing was used in the PCB or PWB manufacturing process... at least
back in 1975 when we were doing it... :)

Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC
3030 Enterprise Court
Vista, CA 92083
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
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IPC Designers Council, San Diego Chapter
http://www.ipc.org/SanDiego/
http://home.fda.net/bbrooks/pca/pca.htm


-----Original Message-----
From: Mary L. Sugden, C.I.D. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:41 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] PCB or PWB: which is correct?


To: [log in to unmask]    Attn:   Gary Koven
From:   Mary Sugden                 At:       [log in to unmask]
Date:   October 30, 2001                Subj:   PCB/PWB?

Hello Gary,
In the beggining, there were Etched Circuit Boards. However, the need
for photo tools drove us to lithographers who worked in the printing
trade.  Because of this early exposure to the printing trade, the
boards were soon called "printed" circuits, even though nothing about
them was printed.

After many years and many debates, someone decided that the term
circuit was inappropriate since the board only contained disconnected
conductors.  The word "circuit" implies a complete path.  As it is, a
board does not contain any complete circuits.  So, they decided that
printed wiring board was a more correct description, even though
nothing was printed.

Some in the industry believed that both terms should be used.  It
would be called a printed circuit if the electrical characteristics of
the board such as the distributed capacitance and inductance, were an
interactive part of the electrical performance such as in microwave
and controlled impedance boards.  If the board did not interact with
or alter the electrical performance, it should be called printed
wiring.  That is, the board was a passive interconnection structure
and had no effect on electrical performance.

    According to IPC-T-50 Terms and Definitions;

    Printed Circuit Board:  Printed board that provides both
    point-to-point connections and printed components in a
    predetermined arrangement on a common base.

    Printed Wiring Board:  Printed board that provides
    point-to-point connections but not printed components in a
    predetermined arrangement on a common base.


No matter what the arguements, most of us still lovingly call them
printed circuit boards.  As Grandma says, "It is better to ride the
horse in the direction it is going."  I hope this helps.


Best Regards, Mary

Mary Sugden
The Copper Connection, Inc.
3003 Bunker Hill, Suite 201
Santa Clara, CA 95054-1106

Ph (408) 970-9838   Fx (408) 970-8184   [log in to unmask]

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