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"Roger M. Stoops" <[log in to unmask]>
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It seems only a few values are readily available in networks and arrays;
you have to do your homework in advance and make sure stock is available
someplace.  Stock for these parts is hard to come by in domestic U.S
market.
We are using networks and arrays on medium/high volume products, and where
we use many of a few values on low volume products.
Ex:  One product, estimated yearly build of 500, uses 38 cap arrays and 57
resistor ntwks, and we try to use these same values on other products.  We
use un-imaginative values, too, in order to get parts (such as 1K, 10K,
100K, 0.1uF, 0.001uF) and find as many good vendors as possible.
Stock is getting better as time goes by.
My 2 cents worth.

Roger M. Stoops, C.I.D., PCB Designer


Trimble
Engineering and Construction Division







                    Susana Anaya
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                    08/09/01
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Hi, the lurker comes out of the shadows here to ask all you wise ones
what's up with availablity for lower volumes. I ask because the reps that
have been suggesting them to me and haven't said a word about this (and I
am one of those not looking for thousands monthly)....sanaya.


At 08:45 AM 8/9/01 -0700, Greg Scott wrote:
     Steve,

     Our materials and component Engineers encourage us NOT to use chip
     resistor networks
     but we do use alot of capacitor arrays.  The reason Is availability
     unless you buy by the thousands monthly.

     Greg Scott
     Cray Inc.

     "Stephen R. Gregory" wrote:
          Hi Glenn!

          I've read the responses you've received to your question (they've
          all been
          good), and want to ask another question...

          I assume the reason to use smaller passive components, is to
          reduce the real
          estate needed by these components. My question is; why isn't
          there more use
          of chip resistor networks and capacitor arrays?

          To me, it seems obvious that the use of these components will
          reduce real
          estate, but I don't see them being used as often as they could
          be...maybe I'm
          not aware of the electrical characteristics or something else,
          but I wonder
          why they aren't used more often in designs that are tight for
          space than what
          I've seen so far...

          Can anybody shed some light on this?

          -Steve Gregory-


               Hi all,
                      I'm brainstorming on risks and benefits of 0603 caps
               vs 0402 caps.
               If the cap value, voltage rating, dielectric material,
               terminations, and
               use conditions are the same, would one be better than the
               other?  My
               thoughts are it would be a wash or at least not significant.
               Here's what I
               have so far:
               Benefits of 0402 vs 0603:
               Smaller size reduces thermal stress/strain on solder joints
               from CTE or
               board flexing.
               Smaller size uses less real estate on board
               Risks of 0402 vs 0603:
               Equipment may have difficulty placing
               Thinner dielectric spacing to achieve same capacitance, cap
               higher failure
               rate
               Smaller size, cracks easier to develop
               Higher risk of tombstoning
                      What do you all think?  I'm sure I missed something,
               maybe even
               wrong on some of the above.
               Thanks,
               Glenn

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