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Neil Atkinson <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:26:24 +0100
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As no-one on the Technet has ever seen a copper content this high before
(there are a lot of experienced people out there) - is it worth checking
your analysis by getting a second opinion - maybe something has gone wrong
somewhere?!?!?

We carry out regular analysis but we rarely have a failure and copper
content has never been an issue even on an old roller tinner in our PCB
plant (it obviously sees nothing but bare copper) so it seems as if
something is wrong somewhere!

Neil Atkinson - Quality Manager
Stadium Electronic Controls Division
Stephen House, Brenda Road, Hartlepool TS25 2BQ (UK)


	     -----Original Message-----
	     From:   Phil Nutting [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
	     Sent:   15 August 2001 15:18
	     Subject:        Re: Solder analysis results

	     Wow, The overwhelming solution is to lower the pot
temperature and skim
	     it off the top. This will have to be a project for an
up-coming weekend
	     or evening.

	     I think somebody asked how long it has been since our last
analysis or
	     did we drop pennies into the pot.  The truth is (hanging
head in shame)
	     we have been running the machine for 5 years and this is the
first
	     analysis we have performed... to quote Steve Gregory -
Woooo-doggies!
	     With age we all get smarter and I've just been enlightened.

	     Thanks to all of you for your responses.

	     Phil Nutting

	     -----Original Message-----
	     From: Lou Hart [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
	     Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:21 AM
	     To: [log in to unmask]
	     Subject: Re: [TN] Solder analysis results


	     Any comment on Steve's stratification theory?  A few years
back I had
	     SPC
	     charts at a HASL pot at a PC fab, with analysis every two
weeks.  Cu
	     content stayed 0.21% to 0.24% over a period of 1+ years,
even though all
	     we
	     were doing was skimming stuff off the top.  Lou Hart

	     -----Original Message-----
	     From:   Stephen R. Gregory [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
	     Sent:   Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:04 PM
	     To:     [log in to unmask]
	     Subject:        Re: [TN] Solder analysis results

	     Dave,

	     Surely, not ALL 1700-lbs.? Wooo-doggies! I can only imagine
what a task
	     that
	     would be!!! I've read some stuff that if you keep the pot
static, and
	     keep
	     it
	     at a stable temperature for a period (what this really is, I
don't
	     know...there's varying opinions), the metals will seek their
own level
	     (according to the different opinions, the copper will be
towards the
	     top),
	     then you scoop out out the top layer, and replenish what
you've removed
	     with
	     fresh bars.

	     The question that I have though, how did the pot get so out
of balance
	     with
	     copper? I've never had a problem with copper content, even
when waving
	     OSP
	     boards...tin levels dropping, yes. But not excessive
copper...somebody
	     throw
	     some pennies in the pot?

	     -Steve Gregory-


	     > RJ Klien Wassink suggests [bible p 169] pouring
contaminated solder at
	     about
	     > 190°C through a 20 mesh stainless steel stariner to reduce
copper
	     content
	     to
	     > 0.25%.
	     >
	     > Dave Fish
	     >


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