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Aha!
        and the eggshells could make a nice mosaic motif......

David Albin
Coates Circuit Products

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Fenner [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 14 August 2001 09:11
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Off-Topic - coatings for airplane-home


A slightly more environmentally friendly way of doing this might be to paint
the thing with raw egg yolks and leave out to bake in the Sunshine which I
understand you fellows also have in the USA. The sulphides in the egg should
give a nice matt black finish. The whites should contribute to a nice
meringue which in accordance with Eric's observations will be the biggest in
the World. [However please dispose of the eggshells considerately]

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Eric Dawson
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:23 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Off-Topic - coatings for airplane-home


Good Morning,
We chaps here in foggy England are always being told that everything in the
States is bigger and better, so why not find a plating shop with a large
tank and anodise the fuselage? Lots of jolly colours to choose from as well!
Regards
Eric the Cad

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crepeau, Phil [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 13 August 2001 23:33
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: [TN] Off-Topic - coatings for airplane-home
>
> hi,
>
> i've seen articles about you weird people in wobeoregon doing this.  why
> not ask somebody up there that has already done this?  kapton makes a
> pretty good tape, but not much as a coating.
>
> why not use a catlyzed polyurethane coating which is what the military
> uses to paint their non-stealthy aircraft?  you should know, however, that
> this will cause an unacceptable number of trees and wildlife (including
> humans)to expire.
>
> why not ditch the 727 and build a sod hut?
>
> phil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl VanWormer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:59 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] Off-Topic - coatings for airplane-home
>
>
> Definitely off-topic, but interesting . . .
>
> I have a friend who is making his new home out of a 727 airplane (see
> www.AirplaneHome.com <http://www.AirplaneHome.com>  for details).  He is
> investigating coatings he might use to "paint the house", and has rejected
> his first choice (Kapton) when he found that it deteriorates when exposed
> to
> UV and Oxygen (I think that was what it was).   Since I've seen some
> amazing
> insights shared on this group, I thought I'd dangle this challenge in
> front
> of the group to see what happens . . .  Any (and all) suggestions will be
> appreciated and investigated.  Please let me know of your suggestions and
> I'll forward them to him.
>
> Thanks
>
> Carl Van Wormer
> Cipher Systems
> 1815 NW 169th Place, Suite 5010
> Beaverton, OR  97006
> Phone (503)-617-7447    Fax (503)-617-6550
>
>
>
> p.s.  here's a snippet from my last contact with the airplane/home owner:
> Hot dog, thanks very much.  I've always been very fond of RTVs - they seem
> more stable than any conventional paint, or any other coating short of
> Teflon.  I've never in my life seen any evidence of any form of
> deterioration
> of RTVs, and they've been around since I was a kid.  I've always thought
> they'd make a great roof coating for my mobile home (back when maintenance
> of
> the structure would've been justified) or the freight vans.
>
> The timing is quite good too in that I've been thinking about coatings
> again.
>  I've been pressure washing again in the last few days, and I've noted
> that,
>
> while the color coats often flake off, the chromates don't, although they
> can
> bleed off.  That is, the chromates seem to form a chemical bond with the
> aluminum, whereas the paint just forms an adhesive bond, which, like all
> adhesive bonds, is unreliable.  When the pressurized water is forced onto
> the
> chromate at its most aggressive (with the wand within a cm or two of the
> surface), the chromate sometimes get fainter and fainter as if they're
> being
>
> abraded off.  But they never peel.  That's impressive.
>
> And that's what I'd like in a coating - a true chemical bond, so that it's
> literally part of the metal, not just a layer over the metal.  Well, that,
> plus absolute immunity to UV, chemical weathering, and every other factor
> that makes a coating just plain perfect.
>
> Teflon's been on my mind too.  It's extremely stable of course.  But I'm
> not
>
> sure what the nature of it's bond is, or what the economics are - I need
> to
> look into it.
>
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