Bill,
OK, I guess we taxed you too heavily on tea! Anyway, Colombian coffee
(and other products) required fewer transport costs.
I know of no name to represent 10^15 or 10^21 other than thousand
billion (trillion), but you are quite right with the 24 exponent of
quadrillion. I don't believe I've ever seen pent-, hex- illion, either.
Maybe it becomes zillions over 10^24 :-)
I've looked up two of the best UK dictionaries (Oxford and Collins).
They both give billion as 10^12 with 10^9 mentioned afterwards under
"(chiefly US)". Oxford adds a usage note after milliard "The term
milliard has been largely superseded by billion", making it delightfully
ambiguous! Collins does not fall in this trap but defines milliard as "A
thousand million (US billion)".
George Bernard Shaw was attributed to having said "England and America
are two countries divided by a common language.".
Brian
"Kasprzak, Bill (sys) USX" wrote:
>
> Brian:
>
> Just curious then, can you fill us in on the names of the other apparent
> gaps in large number terminology?
>
> If million, billion, trillion, quadrillion is incorrect (or corrupted?)
>
> Then fill in the blanks, million, milliard, billion, _____, trillion, _____,
> quadrillion (10*24).
>
> Personally, I don't think we meant to shortchange the Brits. I think we were
> overcharged!
>
> Bill Kasprzak
> Moog Inc., Electronic Assembly Engineering
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Ellis [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:29 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [LF] FT Article
> >
> > Actually, Werner, factor of 10^3. A real billion is, and always has
> > been, 10^12. The milliard, which our transatlantic friends consider
> > non-existent and corruptly call a billion, is 10^9. The confusion has
> > become grave because many Brits have now been conned by reading US
> > literature into thinking that it is 10^9, although less so on the
> > Continent, where the use of milliard is much more current. I guess it
> > dates back to Webster & Co. who were responsible for many corruptions in
> > the established meanings (and colourful spellings) of words in the
> > English language. Strangely, when it comes to units and suchlike, the US
> > ones, where they have changed, are always smaller than the UK ones (cf
> > gallon US = ~3.8 l, UK = ~4.5 l, ton US long = 2200 lbs, US short = 2000
> > lbs, UK = 2240 lbs etc.). Do you think that it was to shortchange the
> > Brits on exports to the old country?
> >
> > Logically, the billion is 10^12 as the word was derived from million^2,
> > hence the bi- prefix. I can see no logic in this prefix for 10^9.
> >
> > The long and the short of it is to always prefix billion with US if you
> > mean 10^9. (This should provoke some amusing messages!)
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Werner Engelmaier wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > > In a message dated 06/08/2001 18:48:21, [log in to unmask]
> > writes:
> > > >Orgalime, the group representing European manufacturers of domestic
> > > appliances
> > > >and electronic equipment, estimates it could cost around E40bn ($34bn)
> > to
> > > deal
> > > >with equipment already on the market plus E7.5bn in annual costs to the
> > > industry.
> > > It is not clear that E40bn =$34bn, because an american billion is not
> > the
> > > same as a European billion. The EU40 = $34 is about right, but unless
> > the
> > > initial European billion was changes to an american billion, the numbers
> > are
> > > off bey a factor of 10.
> > >
> > > Werner Engelmaier
> > >
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