Steve,

In my experience, it is pretty standard of Fab shops to replace only the
PCB's found to be defective - they will always try to get out of paying for
any costs you incurred. "It's your problem, not ours, if you build on
defective substrates," says they, even if the defects don't show up until
later in the manufacturing process. Worth checking the T's & C's you have
with your Fab shop? See if you can hold them to anything that will mitigate
your costs? You will have to fight hard and winge a lot to pierce their
(probably) thick hides, but you never know. They might make a payment as a
"goodwill gesture". You will need to decide where to cut your losses.

One other thought - how borderline are the rest of the boards you've
already built?

Awrabest, as we slur in Scotland.

Pete Duncan





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Hi All Ya'll...

I know what I'm about to ask, may seem petty, but I'll ask anyway...

Those of you that read my posts earlier about the delamination/blister
deal,
well this is related to that.

Is the persuit to finding out what happened with *these two" boards worth
the
time, lab services, etc...worth it?

Like I said earlier, it's only two assemblies...$1,500 dollars at the most,
a
decent amount of money to me (I could do a lot with $1,500 dollars), but a
barely a drop in the bucket in the overall scheme of things...

The reason that I'm asking this question, is because I was enlightened by
one
of the buyers that even if we do determine that there was a problem with
these *TWO* fabs, the vendor probably will give us two new replacement
fabs,
but we can write the components off, as well as our labor...is that pretty
standard?

Like I also said, this is the first time this has happened, with everything

that was shipped to us since November last year...everything has been
pretty
good. Reflecting here at home, with a brew in my hand, me thinks I might be

making much ado about nothing...I'll keep this in the ol' memory banks, and

if it gets worse, then I have a history to base my "whinings" on...

So, learned ones, should I go the lab route and analyze everything to
"inth"
degree? Or just realize that it maybe was a fluke, and keep an eye out for
the same deal in the future? If it does get worse, then would be the time
for
thumb-screws...but part of me says; "Steve, why wait for it to get worse?"

As always, all ya'll, are the best...

-Steve Gregory-

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