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"Ingemar Hernefjord (EMW)" <[log in to unmask]>
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Gregg,
do you happen to have easy-to-mail copy of Wong and Tong?
Another good source is 'Conductive Adhesives for Electonic Packages' by
J.Liu 1999
ISBN 0 901 150 37 1
Ingemar

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg Klawson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: den 31 januari 2001 16:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] silver epoxy & solder coated parts


Jim,

I ran across this paper: "Mechanisms underlying the unstable contact
resistance of conductive adhesives", Lu, Wong, & Tong, IEEE 1999 Electronic
Components and Technology Conference.  They conclude that "electrochemical
corrosion rather than direct metal oxidation is the dominant mechanism" for
increased DC resistance.  They didn't find a problem when connecting Ag
filled adhesive to the noble metals Ag, Au, Pt but had issues with Ni, Sn,
Sn/Pb.

-- Gregg

At 09:09 AM 1/26/01, Marsico, James wrote:
>Thanks for all the responses regarding the use of silver epoxy and solder
>coated parts... obviously, not the way to go!
>I'm still trying to understand the mechanism for increased DC resistance,
>though.  From what I have learned, silver oxides are conductive, so this
>isn't it.  The tin seems to migrate into the epoxy, I assume leaving a
>lead-rich zone.  Is it that the lead oxidizes?  Are lead oxides conductive?
>Can anyone explain?
>Thanks again,
>Jim Marsico
>EDO Electronic Systems Group
>[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:   Mike Fenner [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>         Sent:   Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:52 PM
>         To:     TechNet E-Mail Forum.; Marsico, James
>         Subject:        Re:      [TN] silver epoxy & solder coated parts
>
>         I would avoid it.
>
>         Conventionally:
>         Epoxy has poor adhesion to tin and its alloys
>         The tin/silver interface will give an inter-reaction at the
bondline
>         leading to electrical opens although you may retain mechanical
>         adhesion. One/Two years is a long time in this situation
especially
>if
>         you have mechanical stress/vibration or any temperature swings in
>         service.
>         This is very well documented in the literature and you should see
>         something in the Technet archives.
>
>         More open mindedly:
>         There are some companies working on this and there are now
products
>         which claim to have solved this problem, either by using a sort of
>         halfway house product (adhesive with a fusible metal filler
>basically)
>         or by special undisclosed ingredients/formulations.
>         Contact suppliers for the latest
>
>
>
>         Mike
>
>
>          ----- Original Message -----
>         From: "Marsico, James" <[log in to unmask]>
>         To: <[log in to unmask]>
>         Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:34 PM
>         Subject: [TN] silver epoxy & solder coated parts
>
>
>         > Hello, Technet...
>         >
>         > Here is an unusual situation.  We have to assemble a surface
mount
>         assembly
>         > using silver epoxy.  Some of the components will be solder
coated.
>         I know,
>         > don't bother asking... this is the way it has to be.  The good
>thing
>         is that
>         > this assembly is a prototype for bench-top laboratory use only.
>         There is no
>         > harsh environment and needs to operate 1, maybe 2, years.  The
>         question is
>         > does anyone foresee any problems?  What happens when one mixes
toe
>         two
>         > technologies?
>         >
>         > Thanks,
>         > Jim Marsico
>         > EDO Electronic Systems Group
>         > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>         >
>
>
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