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Sometimes we're just happy to have someone show up everyday, on time.  We
really appreciate it if they call when they can't make it, too.

-----Original Message-----
From: David J. Sanchez [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:15 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN]


IMHO

I am wondering why you don't test your applicants on those basics before you
offer them a job?  Can't you make a year of high school electronics a
minimum prerequisite for those positions?  To me you are really scraping the
bottom of the barrel and you may need pay more money to attract better
people.  I guess that is what happens when the economy is good.

You can start a high school work experience program. With internships or
with work experience programs you don't even have to pay them or you can pay
them less then minimum wage as they learn.  (Check your local labor laws)
Once they graduate they are ready to work for you.

If they can't deal with decimals or fractions, throw them back.

TTFN

David



Kelly..

  Maybe we need MORE preaching!!! We definitely
need MORE parenting and LESS worrying about
political correctness. Enough.. Have a great
weekend.
                     Regards,
                                Bob
Mike & All -

Happy New Years - You too Aussie-lek, if you're awake,

My personal  feelings are that too many parents, of these  folks, have spent
too little time getting in  behind the kids at a time when it counted and
leaving the problem to those of us out here!!!  Our social systems, at least
here in the U.S., these days, seem to tolerate even less than mediocrity.
Thankfully, I went thru the schools, in years gone by, when a kid who was
inattentive or had an "attitude" problem had a whole lot more to be
concerned once he got home.  The last thing I ever wanted my was for my
folks to learn about was that I over stepped my bounds or goofed off in
class.

I never doubted that Mom, Dad or anyone else in my family loved me.  I
simply understood that I had an obligation to them and my future, and no
quarter was allowed.  As a family, we just didn't have any room for failure,
nor did may others, back in the early '40's.  Having spent some time in the
military in various projects reinforces my overall feelings in this matter.

Fractions and decimals are a normal part of life if a person just pays a bit
of attention to their surroundings and does a minimal amount of brain
work!!!

Pardon me for preaching.

Y'all have a good day, a wonderful week, and try to stay warm -

Kelly




-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Fenner <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thursday, January 04, 2001 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TN]


As an aside I mentioned this to my (primary school) teacher friend.
For what it's worth I pass on her remarks:
What they do is to use clementines (small easy peel oranges). These
neatly segment into halves quarters and so on, apparently the
difficulty is getting the "numberness" of fractions over and this is a
good way of illustrating it visually. You can see a quarter [1/4] and
three quarters [3/4] etc.. Apparently once this concept has been
grasped fractions are then easy. A further benefit for her pupils
anyway is that you can then eat your work.....

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly M. Schriver" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TN]


Hi Phil -

I had to teach the fraction and decimal reading many years ago and
took the
following approach, which seemed to work.  I prepared Vu-Graph
slides, to
scale, of both types of rulers (decimal & fraction), adding actual
markings
to them to help the students grasp the concepts, then had them work
along
using identical rulers at their training work stations.  The final
exercises
consisted of a test of taking measurements of small wood blocks,
then we
graduated to the use of calipers, micrometers and feeler gages..

For a few students, I had to use graphic illustrations of squares,
subdivided by both decimal and fractional elements.

IMHO (in my humble opinion), it worked, but I always wondered where
these
folks were during third and fourth grade math classes which were
paid by our
tax dollars.

Regards - Kelly

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Nutting <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:56 AM
Subject: [TN]


Happy New Year All,

In our in-house training program we include not only soldering, but
through
hole assembly techniques, print reading, component identification
and
reading a scale or ruler. One problem we have encountered is there
are some
assemblers that have no understanding of fractions.  I'm looking
for a good
method of teaching fractions and what all those little lines on a
ruler
mean.

Any comments?

Feel free to contact me online or offline.

Thanks in advance.

ps,  I give up. What is IMHO?  I know ROFL, LMAO and LOL, but IMHO?

Phil Nutting
Manufacturing Engineer
Kaiser Systems, Inc.
High Voltage Power Supplies That Work(tm)
126 Sohier Road
Beverly, MA 01915
ph: 978-922-9300
fx: 978-922-8374
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