Ron,
I surly hope that discussion is not considered starting a controversy! I do
believe in discussion, after all look at what is going on today in the US.
Anyway, when you say Japanese companies are shipping product without lead
solder, can you qualify that for me? The last I read up on that was at least
questionable, and then you need to talk to the raw board and components to
totally understand the level of 'lead free' that is being touted about as
'Green'.
Granted the push is on. Personally I see a gigantic hurdle to overcome to
get to true lead free. I am just not sure the political aspect of this
subject is going to be educated on the best way to deal with the presumed
lead problem. Let's face it, it we just go out there and change to lead
free, what takes its place? Is it better or worse than the REAL lead problem
that exists for the electronics industry?
OK, OK, I will lay off!! I believe there are real questions that need to be
answered before a firm timeline can be implemented and as long as these real
questions are acknowledged, then we should see reasonable progress.
Regardless of how much time it will take.
Good luck to everyone!
Richard Hamilton
Clemar Mfg. / Rain Bird
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Gedney [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 11:18 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LF] IPC Seeking Volunteers to Review Draft Timelines
> forLead -FreeElectronics
>
> At the risk of starting another controversy, it is hard to view lead
> elimination as not being feasible when a number of Japanese companies
> are shipping products without lead solder. And they all have time lines
> for full implementation of no lead. Whether their solutions will meet
> all of our (read U.S.) reliability requirements is unknown, but there
> certainly is an existence theorem. Neither Japan nor Europe is asking
> if it is desirable. Our technical opinions notwithstanding, certain
> Japanese companies are using it as a marketing advantage which the
> electronics industry can't ignore.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Smith [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:18 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LF] IPC Seeking Volunteers to Review Draft Timelines
> forLead-FreeElectronics
>
>
> Folks:
>
> Does anyone else find Mr. Jorgensen's proposal bizarre and
> unsatisfactory? The evidence now shows irrefutably that major scientific
> problems remain to be solved before elimination of lead from solder is
> possible or even environmentally desirable. Therefore, the only
> responsible stance for a body representing the interests of the
> electronics manufacturing sector at this time is "we can't do it now,
> there is no way of knowing when (or if) such a change will be feasible,
> and the environmental effects of any such change will be bad for society
> rather than beneficial. The IPC continues to tacitly acquiesce to an
> untenable and scientifically flawed position. This industry body can and
> must do better.
>
> Jim Smith
> Managing Director
> Cambridge Management Sciences, Inc.
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> Christopher Jorgensen wrote:
> >
> > Dear Colleague,
> >
> > Based on industry demand, IPC has developed a working group to develop
> IPC Time Lines for the Elimination of Lead in Electronics. This group
> has written a draft time line document it would like to present to a
> larger audience for review and comment.
> >
> > If you would like to be considered as a part of this reviewing body,
> please contact Chris Jorgensen ([log in to unmask]) no later than Monday,
> November 13.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > Chris Jorgensen
> > IPC Printed Circuits Expo 2001 Conference Coordinator
> >
> > 2215 Sanders Rd
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> > -f- 847-509-9798
> >
> > For more information on presenting at IPC Printed Circuits Expo 2001,
> visit www.ipcprintedcircuitexpo.org
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> >
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