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Franklin Asbell <[log in to unmask]>
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I often find that the trickle down compliance method leads to too much work
for everybody...While I don't have the data you're requesting, perhaps you
can come to an understanding with your customer on specific criteria to gage
this PPM level at.

Are they asking for, and/or would they accept 25 defect assemblies per
million instead of 25 defective solder joints per million? Or perhaps 25
lots per million.\

It has been my experience that customer's, especialyl QS certified customers
are reading way too much into specific requirements and with a little
direction and cooperation often modify what was originally an unattainable
(without costing the supplier an excessive dollar amount) requirement.

Just my thoughts on perhaps another avenue to pursue to achieve both you and
your customers goals.

Franklin

----- Original Message -----
From: Rich Lasko <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 12:35 PM
Subject: [TN] PPM values for the Electronics Industry


> Good Morning Tech Group,
>
> We have a customer that is a Tier 1 supplier to the automotive industry.
We
> are a subcontractor to them.  They are taking the QS9000 quality standard
> and applying it on us.  They have also advised us that they are looking
for
> a 25 PPM (parts per million) on all of their electronics assemblies we
make
> for them.  My question is this, is there a documented PPM study or survey
> that was completed for the electronics industry?  Is the 25 PPM an
realistic
> goal?  Some of our machines that are brand new are spec'd to have a 200
PPM
> "out of the box".  If this is the case...then obtaining 25 PPM would seem
> almost impossible without redundant inspections.
>
> If there is anyone who could assist me in this, I would really appreciate
> it.
>
> Rich Lasko
> Quality Manager
> Badger Electronics
> (262) 886-8800 Phone
>
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