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"Marsico, James" <[log in to unmask]>
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The LCCs we use are all pre-tinned.  If not received that way, we send them
out to a tinning house.
Thanks,
Jim M.


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Misner, Bruce [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent:   Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:52 AM
        To:     [log in to unmask]
        Subject:        Re: [TN] SMT DEFECT RATES (DPMO)

        Jim,

        I would have to agree with Ed. Pre-tinning should help immensly,
just be
        careful of leaching, although it shouldn't be a concern unless you
plan on
        recycling LCC's off reject boards.

        Bruce Misner

        > ----------
        > From:         Edward J. Valentine[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        > Reply To:     TechNet E-Mail Forum.;Edward J. Valentine
        > Sent:         Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:09 AM
        > To:   [log in to unmask]
        > Subject:      Re: [TN] SMT DEFECT RATES (DPMO)
        >
        > Jim - A side question - Are you pretinning your LCC's?  If not,
you should
        > seriously consider the pre-tinning operation, especially if the
Gold
        > castellations are contaminated. You would know this ahead of time
by
        > verifying the coverage after pre-tinning. And, in my experience,
the
        > pretinning produced significantly better soldering results even
though you
        > are adding additional process steps. Ed/
        >
        > Ed Valentine
        > Electronics Manufacturing Solutions
        > 8612 Mourning Dove Road, Raleigh, NC 27615
        > Phone: (919) 270-5145, Fax: (919) 847-9971
        > Email: [log in to unmask]
        > Website: http://www.ems-consulting.com
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: Marsico, James <[log in to unmask]>
        > To: <[log in to unmask]>
        > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 10:29 AM
        > Subject: [TN] SMT DEFECT RATES (DPMO)
        >
        >
        > > Dear Technet:
        > >
        > > I've been tasked by my superiors to query industry to find out
what
        > other
        > > electronic assemblers are yielding off of their surface mount
line.  To
        > > compare apples to apples, here are my specifics:
        > >
        > > We assemble SMT for military/high rel.  The majority of the
parts are
        > > ceramic leadless chip carriers  (LCCs) and ceramic chip
components
        > > (resistors, caps, diodes).  We're starting to track solder
defects more
        > > closely when the assemblies come right off the line, and we
don't like
        > what
        > > we see.  The major anomaly is insufficient solder fillet on the
LCCs.
        > > (There could be one joint insufficient out of 20. By the way,
solder
        > paste
        > > deposits are perfect!)  Whether or not these are actually
defects is
        > under
        > > discussion.
        > >
        > > What I'd like to know is:
        > > 1)      What kind of defect rates (PPM) are others, building
similar
        > > assemblies, getting from their SMT lines.
        > > 2)      Does anyone experience insufficient solder on LCCs?
        > >
        > > Thanks,
        > > Jim M.
        > > AIL Systems Inc.
        > > 631-595-5879
        > >
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