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Hi Again,
  I wish to be enlightened.  My understanding of the original problem was measling during  hand soldering process.  Sorry if I read it wrong and took off on  soldering process.  

All that I have been reading sounds right and about the same.
Therefore I agree with just about everyone.
But now All of you have me wondering.
So here it is another statement and question from me.
Statement:
From past experience MY understanding of PROCESS MEASLING CAN  FROM reflow soldering,  hand soldering or any type of thermal induce process.

My understanding has always been that measling as an inherent or assembly condition is acceptable.

QUESTION:
How done  assembly process measling occur.

Oh by the way I want to thank all of you for putting up with me and to let you know that I have been a technetter for one year and my knowledge has grown greatly.
I do off and on put in my two cents and love it went you give me back a dime.
 Waiting to hear from any and all.
Have a great day
Nancy T.

>>> Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]> 02/02/00 06:58AM >>>
Kelly,

I'm 100% with you on this. Measling is due essentially to too little resin at the fibre
"bumps", because either it was squeezed out too much during pressing or there has been
a chemical attack of the resin, baring the fibres. The real problem with real measles
is that chemicals can enter the fibre structure by capillary action, after which
anything can (and does) happen. Overheating pads is not a cause for measles but, sure
as God made little green apples, it can cause one helluva lot of other problems. This
is why we put thermal breaks in ground and power planes, just to reduce this risk.

Brian

"Kelly M. Schriver" wrote:

> Whoops!!  Help me with this one, guys!!   Measling, by definition, occurs
> only at the intersection of two fiber bundles within the lamina.
> Accordingly, it cannot occur in the same plane as the metal foil of that
> laminate layer.   The size of a measle is self limiting by the structure of
> the glass (or fiber) bundles.  Further, one measle cannot join with an
> adjacent measle or become a running fault in the laminate.
>
> Crazing and delamination, however, can occur in the same plane as the metal
> foil, and can become large running or bridging faults.  I've seen numerous
> cases of crazing which were misdiagnosed as measling.
>
> Many of the publications, such as WS6536, MIL-STD-2000 and others failed to
> recognize this charactaristic about measles vs other internal laminate
> faults, leading to a few misconceptions.  I have seen no indication of test
> data, other than some specialized high power applications which suggests
> that real bona fide measles are a reliability problem.
>
> Regards - Kelly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rampinc <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [TN] Measling
>
> >Rick,
> >
> >Be careful. Measling can be a source of reliability problem when it bridges
> two
> >conductors. Measling becomes 'A' type defect ( Critical function -causing
> rejection)
> >when two conductors of different polarity are bridges. If glass fibers
> become visible
> >in a measled spot, that is also a cause for concern.
> >
> >Send  pictures of measled board for further discussion if you like.
> >
> >"Howieson, Rick" wrote:
> >
> >> IPC states measling is not cause for rejection. Anyone out there know
> >> where I can get supporting data that documents testing performed to come
> >> to this conclusion? All help is appreciated.
> >>
> >> Rick Howieson
> >> http://www.gt-corp.com 
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