Ed,
Couldn't have expressed it any better myself.
What he says is absolutely true. Don't be duped into doing something you
don't need to. After all, you can be ISO certified, but as long as you keep
making trash the same way, AND it is documented that way, you are following
ISO!
Richard Hamilton
Clemar Mfg. / Rain Bird
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Cosper [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 8:52 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] SPC INFO
>
> Hi all,
>
> Saw this posting and had to respond. Rule number 1. Auditors don't tell
> you how to run your business. ISO requires only that you have a system by
> which the need for Statistical techniques be assessed and implemented
> where
> deemed necessary. So long as you have a method of assessing need, you may
> assess and determine that you don't need any SPC anywhere. To often
> manufactures allow ISO auditors to "run" their business using the ever
> popular adage "We do it because ISO says we have to"
>
> I can assure you that is a load of bull... and anyone who is familiar with
> ISO knows this. I have established ISO approved quality systems in several
> companies now. In addition, I have done this with virtually no on going
> added costs. I simply use what is already being done. It is all in how
> you
> document. I have always set up systems with the mind set that less is
> better... and it is. After all, I'm a realist, ISO is nothing more than
> and
> selling tool these days. I rank them in the same category as UL. A bunch
> of
> bureaucratic BS that has been imposed in the US for no other reason than
> to
> make the registrars money. After all, the system elements are nothing more
> than common sense approach, which any company worth its salt already has
> some effective form in place.
>
>
> Just my thoughts...
>
> Ed Cosper
> ABC
> Vestal NY.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Alan Kreplick
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 7:51 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] SPC INFO
>
> Technetter's,
>
> I'm forwarding an email (see below) from a fellow engineer concerning SPC
> software for tracking solder faults.
>
> I'll forward all replies to him.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Al Kreplick
> Sr. Mfg. Eng.
> Teradyne Inc.
> 500 Riverpark Drive
> North Reading, MA 01864
> 978-370-1726
>
> AL,
> Did you get the E-MAIL I sent REF: S.P.C .programs.
> I would like to get some software that will help track solder faults. If
> you
> Know of any please give me a call or E-Mail me.
> The ISO 9000 Auditor wants this information posted as well as tracked.
> Any info you can supply would be appreciated
> Thanks Phil Robinson
>
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