Hello TechNetter,
I personnaly dislike Patents, the companies I've worked for over the years
have stolen dozens of my ideas, I've had personnal claims copied to
oblivion, and since I don't have the money (Cause the company don't pay me
enough on the cash-cows they took from me). Worse part is I can't do sweet
f*** all about it.
There is NO justice in the US or anywhere else in this world unless you
already have the big bucks
Also take the case of non-gasoline engines, you bet your boots that the
petroleum companies will buy out any product that is a potential treat to
their little environmentally unfriendly empire.
Patents suck.... Big time!
MA
On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:47:23 -0000, Michael Fenner wrote:
> Carry on believing it, the essence of a patent is that it proves
novelty/invention and
> subject artefact is not based on prior art/common knowledge. The enemy
of this is
> premature disclosure. Having said that, big money is changing this. In
the US in
> particular companies now appear to be to be able to patent discoveries,
(I refer to
> genetics), but that's a long way from electronic assemblies.
>
> Incidentally my experience of protecting IP was that it was better to
copyright it.
> Certainly in program codes on projects we worked on, connecting our
devices (or any
> product using our pirated code) to a PC com port produced an on screen
message stating
> stolen from "our name" also details of our legal representative.....
>
> Mike Fenner
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: joyce <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: 28 January 2000 20:42
> Subject: Re: [TN] patents
>
>
> > What is going on in the world? I always believed that "common
knowledge" is
> > not patentable. Anything that were published prior to patent
(application
> > file date) are not patentable. That is why some of the industry guide
their
> > dearest IP as "Trade Secret", the boardest possible claim as "patent",
and
> > fight to publish papers if it is potentially might hurt the chance to
get
> > some patent out (avoid it to become "common knowledge")...Is that all
> > changed lately?
> > jk
> > At 07:39 AM 1/28/00 -0800, you wrote:
> > >No, patents are really quit useful. How else could you protect your
> > >investment of time and effort in inventing a new mousetrap.
> > >
> > >But a long time ago I was taught a few easy rules to determine whether
or
> > >not an invention was worthy of a patent:
> > > Is there no prior art?
> > > Is the invention not obvious to someone skilled in the art?
> > > Is the invention being reduced to reality? (are you "building
a working
> > >one"; due diligence)
> > >And if I could answer those questions in the positive it would be time
to go
> > >for it.
> > >
> > >The most used circumvention is of the third one and these days due
diligence
> > >seems to stretch into many years and now the word used when one of
those
> > >patents pops up after everyone has become accustomed to using the
> > >unannounced patent is "submarine patent". (Is machine-vision one of
those?)
> > >
> > >Ahne.
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ryan Grant
> > >Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 15:00 PM
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: [TN] patents
> > >
> > >I hear you loud and clear Paul. I'm not a fan of patents in general.
> > >ESPECIALLY when a tangible product is not made before the patent. For
> > >example, the guy that has a patent on the vision systems used on pick
and
> > >place machines.
> > >
> > >At the risk of being flamed, I think most patents get in the way of
> > >technological development. Very few individuals hold patents; the
company
> > >they work for hold the patent. So in a sense, an individuals idea is
being
> > >stolen by the company they work for anyway since that individual can't
take
> > >their patented idea to the next company they work
> ... snip
>
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