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Bob Landman <[log in to unmask]>
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Bob Landman <[log in to unmask]>
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aww  go on, Scott, rub it in, rub it in...  I have Compaq (yuck) 4508
Presarios and the darn things won't take more than 48MB of ram and
that was extra $$ but I put it in a while back and it did help.  And
of course the 3.1G HD is about full (120MB left).

I know, I know, it's time to move on up to the Dodecapentium12 but
every day I wait
the things get more power (UGH UGH) for less bread and of course, I
then have to move ALL those programs over...  I do have, thanks to
Ray's advice DriveCopy but well, you know, one tiny step at a
time.....

I also have seen all but one of the 4 4508s eat its COM port (on the
motherboard) which I then replaced with eight port COMTROL Rocketport
cards (ohh are THEY nice!).  But lately I hear that USB external COM
port expanders are even cheaper now than those cards.

:-)

Behind The Curve Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Decker <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: January 28, 2000 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [DC] System hang when shut down


: Bob,
:    In the first days of my Windoz 95 install on the 16meg of RAM,
486-25Mhz,
: machine I HAD, the problem left with the addition of MORE RAM. As
soon as I
: upgraded to a larger HD and 64megs of RAM, poof, Windoz shuts down
just
: fine. Another problem I had was with printing. I would ALWAYS have a
hard
: time getting the system to understand that I DO have a printer
attached to
: LP1 and it DOES work. Now all that's gone. I guess the moral of the
story is
: "If you put enough RAM & HD space on a FASTER machine, the software
works
: better". Sort of like if you put enough money in your old car, you
get a new
: one? Anyway, just my $.02 on the subject. BTW, my old car is a P200
with
: 64Megs of RAM with a 6.8Gb HD, boy, am I moving or what?
:
: Regards,
: Scott Decker
:
: AKA: PadMasterson
: Mentor Design Supervisor, Portland
: 7245 NW Evergreen Pkwy., Suite 100, Hillsboro OR 97124
: (503)531-2050 ext. 1820 FAX: (503)531-2051
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:
:
:         -----Original Message-----
:         From:   Bob Landman [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
:         Sent:   Friday, January 28, 2000 8:43 AM
:         To:     [log in to unmask]
:         Subject:        Re: [DC] System hang when shut down
:
:         Eileen,
:
:         No doubt about it - a Windows bug.  We have four Compaqs
here and
: each
:         one shuts down differently.  Mine always hung with Win95 and
I would
:         have to turn off the power switch and then of course the
dreaded NDD
:         would launch when I powered up again.
:
:         I got so sick of this (and other hangups and crashed with
Outlook
:         Express 5.0) that I took a chance when Paulo said that his
upgrade
: to
:         Win98 worked to go ahead and do it.  It installed without 1
problem
:         AND now the machine shuts down correctly.
:
:         I do see some new bizzare behavior:
:
:         1.  the sleep mode is different.  The screen dims and the
Panasonic
:         EO900 19" monitor (when I jiggle the mouse) slowly brightens
up
:         instead of snapping on.
:
:         2.  all windows apps are a bit sluggish.  when I type
sometimes the
:         computer acts like it's forgotten what to do and then it
catches up.
:
:         On the plus side =  no more crashes in OE5.
:
:         You didn't say what OS you are running but I assume as you
said you
:         upgraded from IE3 to IE4 you are in Win 95 so I would get
Win98SE
:         (second edition) and see if that fixes this problem for you.
:
:         Best of luck,
:
:         Bob Landman
:         H&L
:
:
:
:         ----- Original Message -----
:         From: Jim Thornhill <[log in to unmask]>
:         To: <[log in to unmask]>
:         Sent: January 28, 2000 6:34 AM
:         Subject: Re: [DC] System hang when shut down
:
:
:         : This is most certainly a microsoft bug take a look at the
: microsoft
:         support web
:         : site.
:         : support.microsoft.com.
:         :
:         : Jim
:         :
:         : "Eileen Ong [R&D]" wrote:
:         :
:         : > Hi, sorry for posting a question not related to design.
Just
:         wonder anybody
:         : > out there have ever encounter this problem.
:         : > I have just upgrade my IE 3.0 to IE 4.0. But every time
when I
:         close all
:         : > application and shut down, the system will just display
:         : > "waiting for windows to shut down" and hang there. I
further
:         upgrade IE 4 to
:         : > IE 5 but the problem still exist, this problem does not
:         : > happen when I'm using IE3. My system is Pentium 333 with
98M ram
:         and I'm
:         : > running Pads software for pcb design.
:         : > Thanks in advance for advice given.
:         : >
:         : > Best Regards,
:         : > EILEEN ONG (R&D Dept.)
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:         : > Email : mailto:[log in to unmask]
:         : > Web: http://www.paradisemmp.com
:         :
:         : --
:         : Jim Thornhill
:         : University of Liverpool
:         : Department of Physics
:         : Oliver Lodge Laboratory
:         : PO Box 147
:         : Oxford Street
:         : Liverpool
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