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Hi 

 

Take cross-section on the pads and observe the nickel layer by SEM, for black pad, you could see the nickel corrosion.

 

Best regards,

Gary Yu



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	在白老師同一章節內有提到一些方法: 

	

	1. (焊接前)可以透過將具有黑墊(金色呈現稍微的暗紅)與不具黑墊的ENIG處理之顏色在強光下作對照比較, 不過文中提到比色法相當困難 

	

	2. (焊接前)可透過不會攻擊鎳層與不會攻擊黑墊層的除金層藥水將金層除去, 觀察黑墊的存在性. 不過文章內並沒有提到適合的藥水成分 

	

	3. (焊接前後)可切片觀察鎳層的晶格邊界狀況併EDX分析, 也可觀察到是否有磷與氧化鎳複合物含量異常的狀況與黑墊的存在 

	

	Hope this helps. 

	

	

	

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	谢谢你,可惜在大陆看不到白先生的这本书。 

	另外还想问一下,出现这种情况常常是无法在焊接前发现的,焊接后发现了损失也很大的,怎么样能在焊接之后判别是否是"Black pad"呢? 

	  

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	各位好, 

	

	下列是參考白蓉生老師在其"電路板與無鉛焊接"(由台灣電路板產業學院出版)一書中第十章化鎳浸金無鉛銲點之強度關於黑墊的形成. 

	

	化鎳浸金的黑墊成分主要是製程後的磷與氧化鎳的複合物. 幾乎是現行ENIG製程再加上SAC高溫銲錫所很難避免的結果. 已經有一些公開的解決方案, 如利用一部分還原金代替全部換金, 或是在化鎳上鍍上薄化學鈀, 似乎是可行的替代方案, 不過更改製成的成本均相當高.  另外也有一些新的製程如錫銅鎳噴錫, 化鎳化銅上再加上薄的OSP似乎也是可替換ENIG的表面處理.

	

	詳細的黑墊形成原理, 白老師在其書中有詳述, 皆基於公開的論文資料, 大家看看應該會有所幫助 

	

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	"Black pad"和"黑盘"应该指的是同一种现象吧,可能是中文和英文的不同称谓。 

	 

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	請問指的是"Black pad"嗎? 

	

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	ENIG工艺中有一种叫"黑盘"的现象,能解释一下是什么吗?看了资料说是由于P浓度过低引起的,会导致可焊性不良。多谢了! 

	

	冯志刚 

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	    电镀镍金和化学镍金只是加工方式上不同,一个是化学镀一个是电镀,都有镍层和金层,厚度标准也够一样,镍层3-5微米,金层0.025-0.1微米。 

	    我个人的观点,局部可焊性不好,不会是这个加工过程引起的,是PCB问题的话,应该是阻焊显影时局部显影不净导致问题的可能性更大。 

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	谢谢两位的回复。 

	

	还是有些不明白的地方,水金和沉金工艺除了工序不同以外,还有什么区别?是否沉金工艺中不镀镍?还是镀金层的厚度不同? 

	

	回流焊后出现不润湿的情况后,用电烙铁手工加锡也不行,这可以反映出焊盘的可焊性应该是有问题。 

	另外,是否有可能是金层太薄,造成镍氧化,或是在镀金前镍已氧化?不清楚PCB工艺,乱猜的。 

	

	冯志刚 

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	冯工: 

	  您好! 

	  您指的加工工艺应该是全板电镀水金(镍金)或全板化学沉金。不知具体是何种工艺。 

	  从PCB加工讲,化学沉金都是整板进行的,并且是在阻焊加工完成之后进行,如果出现可焊性的问题,逻辑上应该是全板都会出现不良,不会是局部的问题。因此焊接的工艺应该好好分析一下。 

	  如果是电镀水金会复杂些,由于是先整板镀镍金,然后再进行阻焊加工,镀金也是全板进行,局部的可焊性不好,不会是镀金过程引起的,但有可能会因为绿油显影不净出现局部可焊性不好的情况。具体还要仔细进行分析。 

	

	  宫立军 

	  兴森快捷 

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	发送时间: 2007年7月26日 10:54

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	冯先生: 



	      你好!镀金我们在业内一般称之为硬金,由于金层的致密性远高于化学浸金的金层,所以可能会出现局部的上金不良问题。但是我们公司的镀金工艺仅只有针对金手指的接插件,所以对于镀层的可焊性不良不是很清楚。 



	      如果是化金的板件,如果贵司加工的时候没有污染,就可能是供应商的问题了! 



	深南电路 



	李娅婷 



	

	



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	最近碰到一批板,焊盘表面是镀金处理,回流焊接后发现每片板上都有不同程度的不润湿现象,但在每块板上出现的区域不同,出现的位置也不同,同一片板上,有些位置润湿情况还是良好的(通过40倍放大镜观察)。 

	怀疑是PCB厂商在表面处理的工艺中做得有问题,不知镀金工艺中出现这种问题如何分析原因?还请快捷和深南的几位专家解答一下。 

	

	

	冯志刚 

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