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     I have to strongly disagree with John Gulley about laser blind via 
     drilling.  Yes, if you have a lot of vias per panel may be the "currently 
     available" laser machines are not fast enough.  But for most of the boards 
     that I've seen, laser drilling is a cost effective way to create blind 
     vias.
     
     We have done analysis that shows we can price laser via board lower than 
     their through via board counterpart (through layer reduction).  We have 
     also seen other boards priced below their plasma drilled counterpart.  It 
     is a win-win situation for both the customer and ourselves.
     
     I agree that not all boards can be redesigned the same way.  Also, not all 
     board manufacturers are set up the same way.  What makes sense is whatever 
     fit to their process flow and existing equipment.  I'm not here to debate 
     about which method is the way for the year 2000.  There are pros and cons 
     in every approach and throughput is not the whole story.  The key is, I 
     don't think the majority of the industry sees laser blind via drilling as 
     an unattractive method.  In Japan, people either use photo via (similar to 
     IBM SLC), or laser blind via.
     
     Mason Hu
     Zycon Corporation

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re[2]: Plugged Vias
Author:  [log in to unmask] at corp
Date:    10/17/96 9:14 AM


     Jim,
     
     Merix Corporation, Beaverton, OR for sure and possibly North Texas 
     Circuits, Grand Prarie, TX (low volume, military, high tech).
     
     Merix has a process similar to what you are explaining but is simplier 
     to process.  Its similar to the blind via process but uses the Plasma 
     Desmear Removal Process from years back versus hard tool or Laser 
     depth drilling.  From what I understand, they are looking into Laser 
     depth drill, but as with most of the industry, the cost can not be 
     justified based on drill throughput.
     
     The realestate saved by this process is enormous, considering internal 
     routing is increased multifold.  
     
     Example Process:
     
     1.  Add cap layers to the comp and sold sides (sequential lamination) 
     2.  Coat externals caps with resist
     3.  Expose resist only exposing copper pad interconnect 
     4.  Develop
     5.  Etch exposed copper pad exposing resin within the SMT Land
     6.  Plasma etch resin until interconnect copper is exposed  NOTE:     
         Glass based C & B stage materials can not be used since the Plasma 
         does not glass etchback.  Since the Plasma is isotropic it will    
         tend to remove resin evenly in all directions (this from what I    
         understand is being resolved).
     7.  Another etch process further exposing the underlying copper. 
     8.  Electroless plate and so on.
     
     The above is based on my review of there process and technical data.  
     I advise you contact Merix for further info.
     
     As of now this system is self limiting since the interconnect can only 
     be made one layer below.  Depending on your software routing this can 
     easily be overcomed.
     
     Regards,
     
     John Gulley - QA
     Inet Inc.
     1255 W. 15th St, Ste 600
     Plano, TX 75075
     
     972-578-3928
     
     
     
     
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: RE: Plugged Vias
Author:  Jim Marsico 516-595-5879 <[log in to unmask]> at Internet 
Date:    10/15/96 3:35 PM
     
     
We've been using plugged vias in SMT pads for years.  Our design calls for a 
.020" via in the solder pad.  The back side of the multilayer board is capped 
with a polyimide layer to prevent the vias on the back from shorting to a 
restraining core which the boards are bonded to after assembly.  During the 
cap layer bonding process, the vias are filled with a polyimide resin which 
flows up to the top of the vias.  We then require the fab house to over-plate 
the pads, including the polyimide resin-filled holes with copper, then solder 
coated.  The end result is a via in a pad that is, for the most part, 
undetectable.
     
This design worked great over the years, although the art of performing this 
process seems to have been lost since it's now difficult to find a fab house 
who can supply a quality product consistently (military qualified, low 
volumes). 
     
If anyone knows of a board vendor who can build such a board, please let me 
know.
     
Thanks,
     
Jim Marsico
(516) 595-5879
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