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Hi Werner,



I'll take a look at the phase diagrams tomorrow for Sn-Pb-Cu system, but I don't see why a pair of metals (Cu and Sn) which forms a chemical bond can be "influenced" the third party element (Pb) which doesn't form any phases (but predominantly mechanical mix) with either of those two metals.



In a short word, I don't see why all Sn can not be ultimately consumed by Cu to form intermetallics.

Regards,



Vladimir

SENTEC

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-----Original Message-----

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:14:10 

To: <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: [TN] Copper Dissolution Questions continued







 Hi Vladimir,







1. If all Sn is consumed to form intermetallics, then you end up with only Pb in 

the former solder. 





 A: Not so, what you end up with is the Pb-rich phase of the SnPb alloy.

Werner





 





 



-----Original Message-----

From: Vladimir Igoshev <[log in to unmask]>

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Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 11:56 am

Subject: Re: [TN] Copper Dissolution Questions continued





















Paul,



What you are saying sounds "strange", as more details would require. You can 

contact me off line if you wish, as I'm in GTA area.



Regarding your questions, then;



1. If all Sn is consumed to form intermetallics, then you end up with only Pb in 

the former solder. 

2. Intermetallics formation occurs only at the interface, BUT once Sn at the 

interface is consumed, the one from the rest of solder "rush-in"



3. It's a problem if instead of ductile Cu you have a brittle material as a wall 

of a PTH.



Regards,



Vladimir

SENTEC

------Original Message------

From: Paul Reid

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Subject: [TN] Copper Dissolution Questions continued



To continue my quest to understand copper dissolution.



I have a coupon where the copper in the PTH is dissolved by the solder

during thermal excursions. I notice a metallic interface against the

copper. I assume the interface is a tin copper concentration but then

again I don't know. Understand that this is thermal excursions on a

coupon without any solder paste, component etc. The solder volume

consists of the solder associated with a surface finish. In other words

a low fixed solder volume.



1. Can copper dissolution change the tin/lead ratio of the solder that

is above the intermetallic?



2. Is copper dissolved throughout the solder or only at the

intermetallic layer?



3. Would this be a significant concern for assembly?





Sincerely,



Paul Reid



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PWB Interconnect Solutions Inc.

235 Stafford Rd., West, Unit 103

Nepean, Ontario

Canada, K2H 9C1



613 596 4244 ext. 229

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