Bev,
You underestimate the mindset of a long term government provider. We don't
send out a mere six inches of specs to our suppliers. The pile we send our
is three feet tall! If the paperwork doesn't outweigh the boards, we don't
want 'em. :>)
Dave Sullivan
Bev Christian <[log in to unmask]> on 08/07/98 08:02:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Standards
Technetters,
Jim Moffitt wrote:
>If you build predominantly IPC Class 1 Products a company
>specific standard would probably be a waste of money. If you build
primarily
>IPC Class 2 products for a single customer then it also would probably not
be
>money well spent to develop your own standard. If you build Class 2 for a
>wide range of customers, and/or you build Class 3 products, it may well be
in
>your best interest to develop your own standard.
Nortel, Lucent, Alcatel, etc., are large non-military producers of
telecommunications equipment who have been around for quite a while. Not
being military we didn't use the mil specs as a block, although some very
good individual specs were used here and there. We developed our own set
of
standards because at that time there was not a good set of commercial
specs.
Certainly the industry didn't feel that IPC was "there". Today I would
say
IPC specs are very good and getting better, both in quality and breadth of
coverage. Jim, I do not understand why you would think that someone
building in the Class 2-3 corridor for multiple customers should have their
own standards. IPC standards are now well known even off the North
American
continent. Certainly we need our own for the holes that still exist in the
IPC set, but we certainly don't need to continue to maintain our whole
plethora of specs. And certainly we need to be aware of the good set of
standards in Europe.
Also, with the latest fad(?) of sub-contracting handing you poor
sub-contractor a six inch pile of company specific standards it not such a
good thing to do. Do you really think he is going to read it all, let
alone
put it in place for your product only? Ten dollars to a donut he knows
about IPC specs and probably knows how to work to them.
regards,
Bev Christian
Nortel
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> Subject: Re: [TN] Standards
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> Hi Rudolph:
> - Bev's answer is usually the correct response, however, the decision on
> whether or not to develop a company specific standard rests on your
> customer
> base and your present and future processes and involves several
> considerations. If you build predominantly IPC Class 1 Products a
company
> specific standard would probably be a waste of money. If you build
> primarily
> IPC Class 2 products for a single customer then it also would probably
not
> be
> money well spent to develop your own standard. If you build Class 2 for
a
> wide range of customers, and/or you build Class 3 products, it may well
be
> in
> your best interst to develop your own standard.
> - If you have contracts with DOD and need to define a Single Process
> Initiative (SPI) and move all contracts simultaneously via a Block Change
> then
> developing your own standard will pay dividends. I have developed
company
> unique standards which enabled the company to meet the requirements of
> both U.
> S. and European Space Agencies while still allowing them to bid
> competitively
> on less technically demanding products. If you are planning to market
> within
> the EEC you will want to fold in IEC-61191 (Series) along with the IPC
> document base we use here in this country. You can meet the IEC/EEC
> requirements without going out of your way, or becoming non-competitive
> on-
> shore.
> - Like most everything else in life, there is not a digital (yea/nay)
> answer.
> Hope this helps some. Contact me directly if you have specific questions
> I
> can answer.
> Regards, Jim Moffitt, Moffitt Enterprises Consulting
>
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