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Nils de Caluwe <[log in to unmask]>
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Hiya Chris,

>  My name is Chris Robertson, and I have worked as a designer, then as
> a fab house Cad Person, then after learning what I could, I became a
> designer again.
>
> Having experienced both sides, I can explain exactly and distinctly where
> the problems lie.
> Untrained people.

> Many/most designers are Cad people or electronic Tec's that picked this
> "trade" up along
> the way. (Such as my self)
>
> Most fab house people have had no experience in electronic at all and are
> strictly
> fabrication people with 1 or 2 resident engineer. Neither and electronic,
> nor mechanical
> engineer are adequately trained for this job.

I have heard this complaint before from several companies here in the UK and
representing organisations from the industry such as the PCIF. Do you feel it is
up to the educational system to supply more people that are capable of entering
into industry without having to be trained first? Should industry be crying out
louder to the educational institutes such as colleges and universities to
provide these kind of people?

From what I can see at our uni, the numbers of students doing manufacturing
degrees are going down, even though there is a clear need in industry for people
with that type of degrees. Perhaps a joint effort by industry and the
educational establishment should be made to improve this situation...

> Next there are the standards. For there to be a good working standard there
> must be a
> guideline that is accessible to all people so that the standards are easily
> accessible and
> distributed. With the  IPC organization, becoming the epitome of greed have
> cornered the marked on misinformation. The cost of the publications should
> be going towards
> testing and research, I would like to see where it all really goes. The last
> IPC specs I have
> read are another iteration of the IPC-275 D. A little new, but mostly the
> same ol' thing in a
> new wrapper.
>
> I have two calls to make.
> One a call to IPC to drop their all their fees and creation of separate
> books to create more
> revenue.
> And clearer and more informative publication. Including tear sheets with
> predefined formula
> that can be copied and used in the every day designs.
>
> Many of the passages within the IPC "black book of knowledge" were
> apparently
> designed to suffice as military "style" documentation, so the government
> would
> declare IPC the standard of choice, making IPC the required reading, thus
> increasing the popularity and
> circulation, of their publication.
>
> I completely agree that there should be one group making standards, but the
> shear volume should
> suffice in funding research.

The reactions towards IPC standards seem to be divided slightly between useful
as a reference material for those not working at the edge of technology to out
of date if you are using slightly newer stuff...BGA's and such. The matter of
commercialisation or too high prices has not come up before, but I would imagine
that any business trying to stay afloat in this sector would gladly pay for the
membership and necessary standard manuals if it keeps them in touch with the
rest of the world. Am I right or perhaps a little to green/innocent/unknowing in
this aspect?

I wouldn't mind hearing other people's opinions on that one....after all, I am
not paying for the standards but we do have a project fund and have to keep an
eye on what we spend ourselves...as such we would of course encourage cheaper
(free perhaps) availability of the standards....after all...you would expect
local government to step in with some funds as to support their industry?

Any reactions? (fire extinguisher ready)

Nils

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Department of Aeronautical, Mechanical and Manufacturing Engineering
The University of Salford
Salford, Manchester, M5 4WT, United Kingdom
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Tel: +44 - 161 - 295 4562 Fax: +44 - 161 - 295 5575
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