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Hi Bob,

Wow, this thread really morphed. I hope what I have to add is relevant.

Concerning your questions you should work with your legal department for the things outside the scope of your position such as payment schedule, non-disclosures and the like. Your responsibility should be to specify the deliverables, and respective data formats to ensure compatibility with your CAD tools and suppliers needs. In other words the same data that you would normally provide to your fabricator and assembler should be provided to you as part of the contract. Also, be sure to get the CAD source files which will allow you or another company with the same tools to make future changes.

Regards,
Rick

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Croslin, Robert
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:11 AM
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Subject: [TN] Contract PCB Design Services T&C

Dear Technetters,

In my company's desire to save costs, the decision was made to lay off
our own PCB designer and contract PCB design services to external design
firms.  So far, it's working, but not as well as we had hoped.  The
engineering staff realizes that when you dump an amazingly capable
designer willing to work all-nighters and weekends without even being
asked, something is lost, but Sr. Management does not.

1. I'm being asked to provide a set of standard terms and conditions for
such arrangements.  Do any of you who use or provide contract PCB design
services have a standard agreement you use?  

2. Next, if when using a contract house and you discover they're not the
right ones for that particular design for some reason, and mutually
choose to move it to a more specialized firm, do you simply not pay
anything to the original firm, even though they did build libraries and
do placement and original routing, or do you negotiate a fee for time
spent to date?  

I contend that these are services similar to what you receive at a
doctor or dentist who "practice" their arts using learned skills and
that it's simply not an exact science.  Am I wrong here?

Bob Croslin
The Nielsen Company

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