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Ken Patel <[log in to unmask]>
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Jim,
VIPs (Via in Pads) are at too many locations i.e. requires to mask whole board of the size 12"x12".

re,
ken patel

"Marsico, James" wrote:

> Couldn't you temporarily mask the bottom of the vias with tape, then remove
> the tape after reflow?  Wouldn't the void be open on the bottom side of the
> board?
>
> Jim Marsico
> Senior Engineer
> Production Engineering
> EDO Electronics Systems Group
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> 631-595-5879
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:   Marki Sasportas [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>         Sent:   Tuesday, March 05, 2002 7:00 AM
>         To:     [log in to unmask]
>         Subject:        Re: [TN] Via in Pad? Need Help!!!
>
>         Hello Siggi,
>         We had the same problem,
>         1) Using HASL finish to the board will not help you because as Brain
> Ellis
>         said the amount of solder that drains down the via is much more then
> you
>         supply (coat + print )- we tried it without success.
>         2)  DO not Mask the Vias from the bottom side it will cause very big
> voids.
>         3)  You can try to seal the vias with paste but note that if it will
> have
>         height it can cause problem during printing.
>         4) I recommend you to use blind microvias or just take the holes out
> of the
>         pads.
>
>         Regards,
>         Marki Sasportas.
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Zweigart, Siegmund [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>         Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:53 AM
>         To: [log in to unmask]
>         Subject: Re: [TN] Via in Pad? Need Help!!!
>
>         Hello Ken
>
>         We had the same problem (or still have).
>         We tried HASL and OCC Boards but there was no difference.
>         We also tried plugging with a special stencil and 63/37 but this
> don't
>         works.
>         We did not try a high temperature solder.
>         Masking is quite critical because of voids.
>         Beside redesign you have only one chance: Look for new process
> parameters.
>
>         Siggi
>
>                 ----------
>                 From:  Ken Patel [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>                 Sent:  Montag, 4. März 2002 23:37
>                 To:  [log in to unmask]
>                 Subject:  [TN] Via in Pad? Need Help!!!
>                 Importance:  High
>
>                 Guys,
>                 On our nickel gold board, solder joints are below IPC spec
>         (insufficient
>                 solder) where there are vias in pad. Solder is drained down
> the via
>                 holes and deprived the joint of necessary solder.  I would
> like to
>         know
>                 the following.
>                 (1) How about using the surface finish 63/37 coating HASL
> instead of
>                 Ni-Gold? I think gold dissolves in solder so quickly that I
> rather
>         use
>                 HASL processed boards, any thoughts?
>                 (2) Do you guys mask the via on bottom side to avoid solder
> draining
>         out
>                 on the other side?
>                 (3) Does anybody try Hi Temp solder paste to fill the vias
> as our
>                 assembly house ordered via stencils to fill the via using
> eutectic
>                 (63/37) solder paste which didn't work?
>
>                 Looking for
>                 re,
>                 Ken Patel
>
>
>
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