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SOED
geek, noun

slang (chiefly US). L19.
[Var. of GECK noun1.]

A simpleton, a dupe; a person who is socially inept or boringly 
conventional or studious; spec. an assistant at a sideshow whose purpose 
is to appear as an object of disgust or derision.

• geeky adjective socially inept, boringly conventional or studious; 
strange, odd: L20

Somebody's playing fowl here

Brian



Bev Christian wrote:
> Groan!  Or should I say "cluck!"
> Bev
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wed May 07 17:31:14 2008
> Subject: Re: [TN] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list? NTC
> 
> Did he do it with his capon?
> Dewey
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:43 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list?
> NTC
> 
> Its ALWAYS been cool to be a modern geek - the world just didn't know
> it. Note my use of the word "modern". The original dictionary meaning of
> geek is a circus performer who bites head off chickens. I'm not kidding.
> 
> Bev
> RIM 
> Bev
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dharma Kemp-Bresett <[log in to unmask]>
> To: Bev Christian; [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wed May 07 15:43:07 2008
> Subject: RE: [TN] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list?
> NTC
> 
> I was afraid of that... I better go study up before I have my "geek
> credentials" revoked..... Especially now that its finally "cool" to be a
> geek....
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bev Christian [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:35 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list?
> NTC
> 
> You're not a big enough geek. :)
> Bev
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wed May 07 15:20:51 2008
> Subject: Re: [TN] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list?
> NTC
> 
> That "fact" was brought up as an aside to the plot on CSI (las vegas)
> this
> week... I watched a lot of star trek but I don't remember that being
> brought
> up specifically. Do you need a secret decoder ring to know this or am I
> just
> not a big enough geek? :-) Dharma 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Creswick, Steven [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 5:59 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list?
> 
> Dewey,
> 
> Actually, Spock himself would likely be banned since Vulcan blood
> chemistry
> is based on Cu, instead of Fe, like ours ... hence the green color.
> 
> Try as hard as I may, I can not come up with a suitable Deweyism this
> early
> in the day.
> 
> Live long and prosper  - Earthling
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey
> (EHCOE)
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:55 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list?
> 
> I think that's just spoculation on your part and I think they would
> allow
> them based on their warped views of reality.
> Dewey
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Graham Collins
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:48 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list?
> 
> The StarTrek test.  If it doesn't look like something they'd use on
> StarTrek, it's banned. 
> 
> Of course, the guys on the Enterprise had their own issues - those pesky
> warp drives...  I don't think the EU would allow them. 
> 
> 
> regards,
>  - Graham
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike Buetow
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:42 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list?
> 
> I will be curious to see how products are tested for illegal substances
> once
> all the known metals are effectively banned.
> 
> 
> Mike Buetow
> Editor in Chief
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Fjelstad
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:26 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list?
> 
>      
> Some fresh news from the EU Commission  below
>  
> There is no argument that "uncontrolled  recycling" can be hazardous
> just as
> drunk driving can be  hazardous. And how can one be against the
> protection
> of children. 
>  
> The key is education and education is thus  vital. The parents are
> working
> to feed their families. With the knowledge  of the potential for harm
> them
> might cause by poor work habits,  they will make as many of the right
> decisions as they are  capable of.  
>  
> What is a bit alarming is that the  author(s?) following sentence: 
>  
> "Of these metals, high levels of lead and  copper were the greatest
> cause
> for concern" 
>  
> then going on to talk about lead issues  leaving apparent guilt by
> association for copper. 
>  
> The there are a number of other troubling  aspects to the article such
> as
> the use if "could be"  rather  than something more definite and the
> citing
> sweeping transdermal  metal toxicity which is the first time I have seen
> that in print.  
> 
> The item might well have been  sub-titled: "Be afraid... be very afraid"
> 
> targeted not only at the  recycler but also at the electronics
> manufacturer.
>  
> And so it goes...
>  
> Joe  
>  
>  
> 
> Uncontrolled electronic waste  recycling threat to children's health 
>  
> Source: _European  Commission, Environment DG_
> (http://www.environmental-expert.com/STSE_resultEach.aspx?cid=8819&idpro
> ducttype=1&idmainpage=0&level=0)
> Published May 5, 2008  
> 
> 
> 
> Current EU policy on Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment (WEEE)
> highlights the need for greater recycling of electrical and electronic
> equipment to limit the total quantity of waste going to landfill.
> However,  research carried out in China suggests that if recycling is
> not
> carried  out safely then there is a significant risk to human health and
> the
> environment. The researchers from Hong Kong studied Guiyu, a village in
> southeast China which has a significant electronic circuit board
> recycling
> industry.  
> Villagers melt solder from the circuit boards and sort electrical
> components, which they sell to electrical appliance factories. Circuit
> boards contain many toxic metals. The researchers tested dust from the
> recycling workshops, and also from the nearby road, food market and
> schoolyard. They found high levels of dangerous heavy metals which would
> have an impact on the health of the recycling workers and would pose a
> high
> risk to children. 
> The researchers tested for the metals cadmium, cobalt, chromium, copper,
> nickel, lead and zinc. These metals can cause both acute and long-term
> toxicity. 
> Of these metals, high levels of lead and copper were  the greatest cause
> for
> concern. High lead levels are associated with lower  IQ in children.
> Other research has shown that both workers and children in  Guiyu have a
> high incidence of bone disease, as well as digestive,  neurological and
> respiratory problems, which may be linked to metal  toxicity. 
> A risk assessment indicated that recycling workers could be exposed to
> 50
> times the safe oral lead dose. Workers transport the metals into their
> homes
> from the workshop as dust, transferring the dust to their children.
> In a separate study, children of circuit board workers were found to
> have
> higher levels of lead in their blood than those whose parents recycled
> plastics. The metals get into the body through the skin or when dust is
> inadvertently eaten or breathed in. The health risk to children at all
> locations around the village was around eight times greater than that to
> adults. 
> Few studies to date have determined the extent of the problems caused by
> uncontrolled electronic waste recycling. Similar waste is commonly
> recycled
> in African countries as well as India and Vietnam. Awareness of the
> consequences of uncontrolled recycling could prevent some of the same
> mistakes being repeated in these countries. The amount of WEEE generated
> in
> the European Community is growing rapidly and Policy makers would like
> to
> see more WEEE recycling. 
> The EU WEEE directive seeks to encourage safe  recycling, addressing
> issues
> such as managing the risks of handling  hazardous components, which as
> this
> case study shows, can cause concerns  if recycling is not carried out
> safely.
> 
> 
> 
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