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http://www.npl.co.uk/upload/pdf/20130122_caf_avoid_failure.pdf

> Please explain the acronym CAF.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Ken Barton CID
> Technical Designer,
> Avionics HW
>
> Blue Origin, LLC
> 21218 76th Avenue S.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Theodore J. Tontis
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 7:30 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [Possible Spam] Re: [TN] via hole wall-wall mimimum separation
> Importance: Low
>
> Nigel,
>
> CAF is more of a manufacturing defect due to drill bits pulling or
> breaking glass fibers in the laminate material. Placing via's close
> together increases the likelihood CAF will occur.
>
> With HDI designs via prep is different. Most microvias are not drilled
> completely through the board, they are stacked. They can also be laser
> formed instead of drilled.  Ask the board supplier which process they are
> using.
>
> Also, there is CAF resistant laminate material to help reduce CAF from
> occurring. If there is concern, reach out to your board supplier and ask
> them if they can provide you with CAF resistant laminate or at least share
> your concern with them. Your board supplier has a wealth of knowledge they
> would love to share with you.
>
> No, there is no design guideline that will provide the minimum gap to make
> a robust design. There are far too many variables that would go into that
> decision making process. To name a few, end use environment, min voltage
> clearance, laminate material, .....
>
> Best advice is to reach out to the board supplier and share your concerns.
> Most laminate suppliers have performed tests on their materials and can
> provide data. If it is a mission critical Design I would suggest creating
> test coupons and evaluating the materials yourself.
>
> Ted
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nigel Burtt
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 7:50 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: via hole wall-wall mimimum separation
>
> Because of mechanisms like CAF/CFF I have in mind a paper I read some
> years ago that quoted some work by Sun Microsystems that suggested via
> hole wall-wall distances in a design should aim to be minimum 0.5mm
> wherever possible and with the holes staggered as much as possible.
>
> In today's HDI PCB world a wall-wall gap of 0.5mm seems like a big ask for
> the designer. Looking at the IPC-9253 and IPC-9254 CAF test PCBs, these
> have wall-wall spacings that vary between 0.15 and 0.89mm, so I assume the
> 0.15mm end is intended to represent real-life design and not just a
> practical PCB fabrication limit?
>
> Is there an IPC PCB design guideline which points to what a designer
> should aim for as a minimum gap to make the design as robust as it can
> be?
>

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