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Steve, 
  Another option that dovetails with what Jim said is to go to the local univeristy or college and see if you can find a Jr. or Sr. Manufacturing/Electrical/etc. Engineering student who wants a part or 3/4 time job.  I know (from current experience) that you can pay students less than you would a "normal" person and they are grateful for the money and experience.  Plus you can find a good person that you can potentially groom to take over the wave soldering stuff from you shold you get too busy (or get your own newspaper/mag column)!


Eric Kalgren
BFGoodrich Aerospace
Data Systems Division
(505) 938-5139
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>>> Jim Kittel <[log in to unmask]> 08/31 6:17 AM >>>
Steve,

My experience is you are just as well off by taking someone who is
interested in machines and chemistry and training them yourself.  That way
you are not as likely to get someone experimenting with the specific gravity
or adding oil to the pot because 'that is what we did where I used to work'.
Also, being a 'trainee' you can beat the wage game, and then move them up as
they progress.

Anyway, I enjoy reading your correspondence regardless of what you are
discussing.  I think you should have a newspaper column instead of a web
site.

Jim Kittel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen R. Gregory [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] 
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 8:23 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask] 
> Subject:      [TN] Wave Solder Operator Wages...
>
> Hi Ya'll,
>
> Well, with my new job as was supposed to be a SMT Process Engineer, I got
> tasked with taking over our wave solder operations (and being the
> supervisor
> to boot! Hey, whatcha' gonna do? With relocating and everything?) Nuff'
> said...
>
> Anyhoo, I've been wave soldering everything myself the past couple of
> weeks
> and need to hire a competent operator so I can go on to bigger and better
> things. Problem is, I'm not really familiar with the wage scales for wave
> solder operators in Oklahoma.
>
> Myself, I think a good operator that can think on his feet is worth their
> weight in gold, just as I think a good manual soldering operator is.
> However,
> my opinion I've learned, is not shared by those that control the "purse
> strings" (if you will...nuff' said about that too, if you catch my
> drift...)
>
> What I'm asking, is there a web page someplace that will give me some
> ammunition to justify a certain hourly pay-scale for someone that I'm
> looking
> for? Something that I can go to management with and let them know that
> they
> can expect to hire someone for a certain figure and expect a competent
> person. Just to let you know, they think they I can hire someone for
> between
> $6.50-7.50 an hour out here...I don't think so myself...that's if I can
> find
> someone that knows anything about wave soldering...hehehe
>
> I'm going to interview them to be sure, and I think I'll be able to
> distinguish whether or not the person has the where-with-all to be a good
> operator...I'll share everything I know about the process with this
> person.
>
> I've always been an engineer, and not usually involved in the hiring of
> operators... especially here in Oklahoma. I know pretty much what
> production
> positions get in "Silicon Valley" but not here in Oklahoma.
>
> Boy, this sucks...I just need a web page, something...anything
>
> -Steve Gregory-
>
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