The short answer is low activation flux in the LF solder
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Subject: Re: [TN] Solder Stations
Hi David!
Here's a pretty good link from Metcal that explains it:
http://www.metcal.com/tips/noclnp.html
Kind regards,
-Steve Gregory-
Senior Process Engineer
LaBarge Incorporated
Tulsa, Oklahoma
(918) 459-2285
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Technet,
Can someone explain why the tips do not last as long using no-clean flux?
David
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>Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:26:12 -0500
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>Two things, when using a no-clean flux you will go through more tips
>than you do when using a water soluble. Also, Plato makes tips for
>different solder systems such as Hakko, Pace, Metcal, Weller and others.
>I have found that Plato's tips last much longer than other tips. I was
>told by other engineers that Plato started out as a plating company,
>and that is one of the reasons their tips last longer. I don't know if
>that is true, but they sure do last longer.
>
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>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Larry Koens
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> Doug,
>Surprised on your comment on the tips lasting longer. We have found
>that we burn through the JBC tips much more quickly then the Metcal. I
>do have to agree that the operators prefer the JBC though.......
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>Larry
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>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas O. Pauls
>Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 7:31 AM
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>Well Phil, Metcals are fine if you like burning through tips pretty
>quickly. We are changing over to the new JBCs. Operators love em and
>the tips last a lot longer.
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>Doug Pauls
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>Hi Roger,
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>Metcal....for soldering station selection.
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>The bean counters won't like it, but your operators will love you for
>it.
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>Just make sure your operators are trained in how to use the equipment
>correctly.
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>Learn how to spot bad tips and how to properly take care of the
>equipment.
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>There are lots of options when it comes to desoldering and hot air
>rework stations however.
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>Hope this helps...
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>Phil
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>Darrel Therriault <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Ditto on the MetCal....DJT
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>Roger,
>You just opened yourself to a mess of e-mails from sales people who
>monitor this forum. I am not such a person.
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>I really like the Metcal irons. They are more expensive but I feel they
>perform better than any other iron. I will catch a lot of flack for the
>previous statement but hey, I have an opinion.
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>Good luck. Joel
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>I am looking to establish an electrical/electronic capability. I need
>advise on the best solder stations to purchase for a general surface
>mount, thru-hole new and rework capability.
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>I will want a variety of tip sizes, easy to change tips, adjustable
>temperatures in some manner, good capacity (little temperature
>fluctuation when you put the tip on high mass connections), no current
>leakage, and no stray voltages.
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>Thanks,
>Roger
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