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Hi, James,





                    "Marsico, James"
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                    01/11/02 08:09
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Hi, Peter, thanks for the response.

Let me try to explain further.  We're using ceramic leadless chip carriers
which give off a lot of heat.  In an effort to dissipate the heat to the
ground planes, we're placing thermal vias underneath.  We wanted the
thermal
vias to be plated closed, resulting in a solid plug of copper, which we
then
can deposit solder paste on top which would contact the bottom of the
ceramic package.  The heat path would be from the component through the
solder bumps on the thermal vias through the solid copper via.  Our board
supplier claims that he can plate the vias closed, but when I asked about
voids and entrapped plating chemicals, he said he was never asked that
before and would have to look into it.  I'm getting concerned with this
design, thinking that an epoxy-filled via which is plated over on top would
be better.  I now need recommendations for a THERMALLY conductive adhesive,
it doesn't have to be electrically conductive but I don't really care.

Thanks again,

Jim Marsico
Senior Engineer
Production Engineering
EDO Electronics Systems Group
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631-595-5879

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        From:   <Peter George Duncan> [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent:   Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:28 PM
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        Subject:        Re: [TN] VIAS PLATED CLOSED

        Hi, James,

        I'm trying to picture your "thermal reasons" and how plating over
the holes
        will help, reliably. I haven't encountered a process for plating
over
        holes, and 21 mils seems quite a canyon to bridge. I'ld be very
interested
        to know how this is done.

        I'm very involved with conduction-cooled MLB's 60 mils thk, that
require a
        lot of thermal management. 'Thermal' via holes are punched through
the
        board and plated to internal thermal planes. To improve the
conductive
        cross-sectional area of these holes, I had them filled with
silver-loaded
        epoxy, which was then Cu-plated over. This process also served the
        secondary purpose of filling holes that otherwise, as you suggest,
would
        contain entrapped plating solutions.

        Depending on your substrate material and operating environment, I
could
        imagine a plated 'cap' splitting over time through temp cycling and
        mechanical stresses, assuming it survives the hot assembly
processes
with
        the expansion of entrapped gasses. Not serious, thermally, perhaps,
but it
        would allow the outside atmosphere to circulate inside the holes as
well,
        which might not be so good inteh long run.

        Peter




                            "Marsico, James"
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                            01/11/02 05:55
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        Good day technet:

        We're considering designing a multilayer polyimide PWB with a
number
of
        vias
        (approximately .021" diameter holes, .062" thick PWB) that are
plated shut,
        for thermal reasons.  Can anyone comment on pitfalls regarding the
fab
        process?  How about voids in the solid copper via?  Entrapped
plating
        solution?

        All comments are appreciated.  Thanks in advance...

        Jim Marsico
        Senior Engineer
        Production Engineering
        EDO Electronics Systems Group
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        631-595-5879


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