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Inge Hernefjord <[log in to unmask]>
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Paul's notes are interesting.
Inge

On 5 December 2012 19:03, Paul Reid <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi Steve and Mordechai,
>
> In the first picture it looks like the trace under the dielectric is
> superimposed on the pad. This looks like a condition called
> "telegraphing" where the copper conductors or pads are pressed into the
> dielectric and any copper in the outer layers leaving an impression that
> is visible upon inspection.
>
> The second picture is of a microvia. Note that the layer two copper is
> very thick compared to the dielectric. So the amount of "b-stage"
> dielectric is squeezed out between the conductors and the layer one
> copper during lamination. This condition is called "glass lock" or
> "glass crush".
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Paul Reid
>
> Program Coordinator
>
> PWB Interconnect Solutions Inc.
> 235 Stafford Rd., West, Unit 103
> Nepean, Ontario Canada, K2H 9C1
>
> 613 596 4244 ext. 229
>
> Skype paul_reid_pwb
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory
> Sent: December 5, 2012 11:49 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
>  Subject: [TN] A PCB defect that is not specified by IPC
>
> Hi Mordechai,
>
> I have not seen anything like this before. I've posted your pictures so
> everyone else can see:
>
> http://stevezeva.homestead.com/Pad_Wrinkle.jpg
>
> http://stevezeva.homestead.com/Via_Xsection.jpg
>
> Could you share what the overall stack-up of this board was supposed to
> be and what prepreg thickness was used?
>
> Steve
>
> From: Mordechai Kirshenbaum
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 3:16 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: A PCB defect that is not specified by IPC
>
>
> Hi Steve
>
> On routine visual inspection of an income PCB board we found a type of
> the defect
> that is not specified in any of the IPC standards (e.g  IPC-A-600
> Acceptability of Printed Boards).
>
> It looks like  wrinkles on  pads  and conductors (see fig 1 in the
> attached file). We suspected that it was caused
> by thick copper conductor on the second layer (under the outer layer).
>
> We measured the copper and the dielectric thickness between the outer
> and the second layers
> and found that the copper thickness on the 2nd layer was relatively high
> (70 micro-meter), and the
> dielectric thickness lower than specified (only 50 microns).
>
> Have you seen similar defect?
> What is the reliability impact?
> Is it acceptable for class 3?
>
> Best regards
> Mordechai Kirshenbaum
> MOD, Israel
>
> P.S. please feel free to post this question on the technet forum.
>
>
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