It was only $20 when it was a prelim copy prEn 50419..............:)
these guys have to make a living just like UL....................
Regards,
Chris
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-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Genny Gibbard
Sent: 21 July 2005 17:41
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Official copy of the TAC WEEE Unofficial notes?
I just spent $120 on this 6 page standard (that's $20 a page...) - well
OK, it was the company's money.
Does this mean it may not be valid?
{mutter, mutter, mutter...}
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From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Burke
Sent: 21-Jul-05 10:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [LF] Official copy of the TAC WEEE Unofficial notes?
Unbelievable, I don't believe I just read this in those notes:
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The Commission explained that it had received the proposed standard from
CENELEC in
December of last year. However, the Commission had concluded that the
standard did not
comply exactly with the requirements of the Directive in two specific
instances and had
sent comments back to CENELEC to this effect. It was hoped that these
problems could
be resolved at a meeting that was due to take place on 11/12 July.
========================================================================
====
==================
I believe they are talking about a meeting on 11/12 July 2005 to discuss
changes to a label standard which is compulsory from 13 August
2005.....................
That must be the Euro Parliament version of JIT
John
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-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of James, Chris
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:26 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Official copy of the TAC WEEE Unofficial notes?
Scroll down to 5.......
http://www.dti.gov.uk/sustainability/weee/index.htm
Regards,
Chris
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From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of jeff collins
Sent: 21 July 2005 17:04
To: [log in to unmask]
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Subject: Official copy of the TAC WEEE Unofficial notes?
Group,
I read that the RoHS requirements were changing a bit and that the
Technical Adaptation Committee for WEEE and RoHS Directives have
published unofficial notes.
Has anyone seen an official copy of the TAC WEEE unofficial notes?
Thanks,
Jeff Collins
Nic Bowker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Those were the kind of answers I had in my head - I suppose
should have put down that I was talking about Producer direct selling to
end user between EU states, as that's the bit that's doing my head in!!
Nic Bowker
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-----Original Message-----
From: James, Chris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 19 July 2005 10:01
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] WEEE question: Products selling to EM and not
end user
directly???
Well that is not quite the whole picture as I understand - if
you are a
UK manufacturer and you sell through importers or distributors
into
other EU states then your importers are the "producers" and are
liable
for obligated product.
If you are a UK manufacturer and have a presence (office) in
another EU
state who handle your sales in that state then ultimately you
will be
liable to register in that EU state.
If you are outside the EU and sell into the EU through
distributors/importers then they are the "producers" and thus
liable.
If you are outside the EU and sell direct by mail order/internet
into EU
states then no one as yet has come up with an answer - my guess
is the
consumer will become responsible but as such items will be small
(MP3
players etc. rather than fridges, TV's etc) Joe consumer will
just throw
them out with the trash which won't be policed and so will go
into
landfill. (But will obviously be a small % of the items really
targeted
by WEEE.)
When the UK legislation is published, then maybe some of this
will be
clarified :)
Regards,
Chris
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-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nic Bowker
Sent: 19 July 2005 09:40
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] WEEE question: Products selling to EM and not
end user
directly???
Which leads nicely onto a question I had and that I thought I
had the
answer to until I talked to the DTI....
The comment about "registering with each and every country" - I
had
presumed that If you were in the EU and sold to other EU
countries you
had to register with each EU country to which you sold,
otherwise how
would they work out your WEEE obligation.
However, according to the man at the DTI and at one of the
compliance
schemes, this is not the case. If in the EU, when you register
in your
"home" country you simply tell them of all the countries you
sell into.
Quite how this works for "distance sellers" (i.e. o! utside the
EU to
start with) I don't know. Nor do I understand if you haven't
registered
(unless it's all being done by some giant central
computer....Where are
you HAL?!) how they work out your WEEE Obligation.
Anyone care to comment?
Nic Bowker
Technical Resources Adviser
PLASA Ltd.
38 St Leonards Road, Eastbourne, East Sussex, BN21 3UT, UK.
Tel: +44 (0)1323 410335 : Fax: +44 (0)1323 646905
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Member.
-----Original Message-----
From: James, Chris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 19 July 2005 08:50
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] WEEE question: Products selling to EM and not
end user
directly???
Ken,
It sounds very much like you are not the ones "placing the
equipment on
the market". The company you are selling to are the ones placing
on the
market and are therefor! e the importers/distributors and so
become "the
producer". The obligation is therefore theirs.
Just my opinion.
Regards,
Chris
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-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kanaiyalal
Patel
Sent: 19 July 2005 01:51
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [LF] WEEE question: Products selling to EM and not end
user
directly???
All,
If we sell EEE products to EM (Equipment Manufacturer), do we
still has
to register with each country and provide all sorts of sales and
other
data? Our product is for Networking and Telecommunication
companies and
we do not sell directly to the end users. If they need
replacement part
they have to buy it from EM.
Any comments on WEEE implementation besides marking of the
products.
Re,
Ken Patel
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