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Good day, Werner.

Could you provide a link to your recent blog entry for the community to 
follow?

Thanks.


Marcus Thompson


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Subject: Re:[LF] [RoHSUSAPushback] Update on H.B. 2420
From: Werner Engelmaier /* <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:27:08 AM

>  Hi Bob,
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> Thanks for the feedback.
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> Unfortunately, it is ignorant remark like the one you are quoting, that gets the whole industry into trouble.
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> It is were dangerous to judge the rest of the industry of one's limited perspective—see my recent blog in the IPC blogs.
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> From: Bob Landman <[log in to unmask]>
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> To: [log in to unmask]
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> Sent: Sat, Jul 18, 2009 11:25 am
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> Subject: Re: [LF] [RoHSUSAPushback] Update on H.B. 2420
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> Colleagues:
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> This past week I attended a SMTA/IEEE joint meeting on lead free manufacturing.  
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> The presenters statements, as well as those in attendance, except for myself a 
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> few others, were sanguine about the reliability of lead free manufacturing 
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> today.  A statement was made by a reliability engineer with many years 
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> experience that there was no reliability concerns now that lead has been 
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> eliminated except perhaps for NASA space projects because “most electronics has 
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> a useful life of 3 years”.   The agenda of the meeting:  July_2009_SMTA-IEEE 
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> joint_meeting - Hudson NH.pdf
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> Are you all prepared to toss the electronics you have purchased in 3-5 years 
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> since the RoHS law came into effect?  Willing to role the dice?   What about all 
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> the extremely expensive test equipment being purchased today (from Agilent, 
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> Tektronix, Teradyne, etc..)   It is all lead free now.  Is there really nothing 
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> to worry about?
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> saying to yourself “I doubt it will happen to me”?  What convinced you?  
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> Where’s the evidence?  On what is your level of confidence based?  Isn’t it so 
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> that lead-free electronics is in its infancy?  Hasn’t the literature made it 
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> clear it takes years to show the failures (and they may be intermittent failures 
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> which are very hard to find)?   
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> How about that new car you just purchased that is loaded with electronics (which 
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> includes pollution controls, air bag deployment and anti-lock brakes).  How 
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> about that rapid transit train you ride to work every day in that is controlled 
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> by electronics?  Did you see the pictures of the crash of the Wash DC Metro a 
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> few weeks ago?  That was blamed on a failure of the control system.
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> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/us/14rail.html   WASHINGTON — A single broken 
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> part probably caused last month’s deadly train crash here, the National 
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> Transportation Safety Boardhinted Monday, as it issued an urgent recommendation 
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> to local and federal authorities to evaluate similar systems around the country 
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> for “adequate safety redundancy.”
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> More than ever before, technology is connected to our lives in a very intimate 
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> way.  Someone you know has a pacemaker.  Cardiac pacemakers have failed due to 
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> tin whiskers – did you know that?  The FDA recalled them -   
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> 2008-Brusse-Pacemaker Committee-Metal Whiskers.pdf
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> There have been many recent articles on the sub
> ject which clearly indicate that 
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> tin whiskering is still a concern.   Here are links to them so you can judge for 
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> yourselves.  (or do you not want to know, you want to maintain your lead-free 
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> innocence?) 
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> Several quotes come to mind as I reflected on what I was hearing that evening…
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> Mark Twain said ““It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's 
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> what you know for sure that just ain't so.”
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> Louis Pasteur noted that “In the fields of observation chance favors only the 
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> prepared mind”.
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> 1)   APEX 09 Bare Board Material Performance after Pb-free Reflow 
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> -presentation.pdf (excellent very detailed study of reliability of lead free pc 
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> boards)
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> 2)   apex tin mitigation Lesniewski.pdf  (suggestions on how to mitigate (not 
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> eliminate) tin whiskering)
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> 3)   NASA_DoD LFE Project-June-24-2009_SN whisker tele.pdf  (excellent 
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> presentation by Kurt Kessel of NASA Kennedy on extended life testing of 
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> lead-free mfg)
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> 4)   The Pb-free Manhattan project.pdf  (why is this proposed $60M project 
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> necessary?)
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> 5)    Borgesen_Lead_free_reliability.pdf  (Borgeson notes here how one can be 
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> deceived by the design of experiment into thinking all is well with lead free 
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> mfg)
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> 6)   Developing a NASA Lead-Free Policy for Electroncs_Lessons Learned.pdf
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> 7)   Pb-free DoD brochure.pdf  and DID for LFCP DI-MGMT-81772.doc  (DOD cautions 
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> to be aware of lead-free problems)
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> NASA also has quite a collection of
>  articles at this link http://nepp.nasa.gov/WHISKER/  
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> Bob Landman, President
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> Senior Member, IEEE
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> IEEE Power & Energy/Reliability Societies
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> H&L Instruments, LLC
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> www.hlinstruments.com
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