Jack,
I will support any decision that is made on this.I am saying this while
still rational and able to use the delete button.
Dewey

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Crawford [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:27 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      [LF] Clarification on Leadfree Listserve question
>
> Jim and all--
>
> My reason for requesting a direct response was to get the feelings of
> forum members based on their own unique needs rather than lots of "I
> agree" "I disagree" msgs like you've all been seeing today. It's a
> no-cost, no-brainer operation for us to set up another listserv.
> Everyone/anyone can sign up to any of the many listservs we host.
>
> As you would expect because of my position, I subscribe to all the IPC
> listserves and have email "rules" set to direct each of them to a unique
> folder in my received mailbox. This should be an option in the majority of
> mail software programs available today.
>
> The responses so far are very polarized. The tech-data users are
> overwhelming in request for a separate forum that would be used only
> technical/application/research data. The members that continuously express
> strong feelings against any research/information gathering don't want a
> second forum.  I'm at a loss to understand why one group that doesn't
> wish/need to be involved in technical research wants to make it more
> difficult for those that do. Appropriate postings to any listserv are an
> indication of the respect that any member has for all the others. IPC does
> not approve/deny any postings to any listserv.
>
> I'll copy and paste all the comments into msgs in a couple of days.  This
> isn't an industry consensus standard we're working on here--IPC listservs
> are one of the many services your association provides to those members
> that want to use them.  Others can pass if they wish.
>
> Jack
>
>
> >>> [log in to unmask] 08/07/01 03:48PM >>>
> Joe (and, by extension, Jack):
>
> Joe said it all -- almost. May I suggest, in addition, that Jack's action
> in distributing the objection without attribution was strange and the
> request that all responses be submitted off-line stranger still? I cannot
> comprehend why a public body would wish to hold policy decisions in
> camera.
>
> Thank you for your thoroughness and cogency, Joe.
>
> Jim Smith
> Managing Director
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>
> Joseph Fjelstad wrote:
>
>       Hi Jack,
>
>       I for one don't see the need for a second site to discuss the matter
> of
>       lead-free.
>
>       There is a Delete function on every keyboard that solves the problem
> nicely.
>
>       The topic of lead-free is a volatile one to be sure.  The act of
> simply
>       ignoring the broader multidimensional issues of lead-free is one
> approach to
>       addressing the problem.  Unfortunately, that approach (using the
> delete key
>       or ignoring well-reasoned arguments) is not going to solve any of
> the
>       lingering problems of concern. Moreover, all of the facets of
> lead-free...
>       technical / business/ political / environmental ... are
> intrinsically
>       interlinked.  It became that way as soon as the legislators and the
> purveyors
>       of "green" products decided to take on the electronics industry for
> their own
>       narrow and ill-conceived ends.
>
>       Now that the IPC-EIA-EPA are poised to look seriously at the broader
> issues,
>       I think most folks than ever will want to watch this channel much
> more
>       closely than before. We do not need now to diffuse the important
> arguments
>       that are being made and other discussions underway, technical or
> otherwise.
>
>       Cheers,
>       Joe
>
>       I just read Gordon Davy's brilliant letter. There is an incredible
> amount of
>       wisdom in that message. I hope that all in the forum read it to its
> end.
>       While I do not share all of Gordon's opinions, I would have likely
> missed
>       reading his well composed argument if I have been closeted in a
> technical
>       only section.
>

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