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Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:44:08 +0100
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Dave - you are muddling two similar words but which have different

meaning:



Practicable (as in the UK text) means - capable of being carried out or

put into effect



Practical (the word you quoted below) means:

concerned with actual facts and experience, not theory;

sensible or useful, and likely to be effective;

plain, functional, and suitable for everyday use



Regards,

Chris



-----Original Message-----

From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MA/NY DDave

Sent: 29 March 2005 17:30

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [LF] Wheelie Bin and Pre/Post RoHS compliant date.



Hi Kay, IPC LF Listservers,



Thanks Kay, When reading the word "practical" in the UK (GB) wording

it does seem to be a bit more soft than "exceptional cases" which is

in the Directive.



So I can see where marking the product, at the top level where it is

humanly readable is the best approach.



The smallest size of this symbol that is still humanly readable by

most of the population should end up being specified someplace.





Yours in Engineering, Dave

Y i Engr, MA/NY DDave



<========== Start of Kay's note ========>



Hi Dave

I dont have a particular opinion - but in this case it seems the

Commission feels that the text of point 2 of the EN (european) standard

is not in line with the Directive requirements.

Kay

-----Original Message-----

From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MA/NY DDave

Sent: 25 March 2005 04:36

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [LF] Wheelie Bin and Pre/Post RoHS compliant date.





Hi Kay, Chris, Dan, , , IPC LF Listservers,



Kay, The UK's Point 2 that you refer to should be a mirror of WEEE and

should come from WEEE Article 10 $3 "exceptional cases". I am thinking

of small watches, tiny thermometers, .



Do you see that the UK's rules, as presently stated, have been too easy

for the manufacturers (in member state  producers) to ignore the

"exceptional cases" wording in the WEEE Directive.



Yours in Engineering, Dave

Y i Engr, MA/NY DDave



<The UK standard is published but point (2) is actually under challenge.

Best to mark the product itself.  Kay> <





<=== part of Chris's note ===>



-----Original Message-----

From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James, Chris

Sent: 24 March 2005 09:15

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [LF] Wheelie Bin and Pre/Post RoHS compliant date.



The appliance - the end product used by the consumer.



UK draft regs say:



Information for users



32.-(1) Each producer shall mark electrical and electronic equipment

which he places on the market on or after 13th August 2005 with the

symbol in Schedule 5.



(2) Where it is not practicable for a producer to mark a product as set

out in paragraph (1), the



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