Exactly.
There are swabs too!
Gaby
----- Original Message -----
From: "Danielle Casha" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LF] Antw: Re: [LF] INTERPRETATION OF EU DIRECTIVES, ETC.
> Such a tool may not be necessary. At a recent Pb Free presenatation here
> in Toronto Canada, Peter Biocca, of Kester solder was able to show those
in
> attendance a small disposable pen sized gadget that, when rubbed on a
> solder joint, would turn pink if there was lead present, at a cost of
aprox
> $1.00US per. Perhaps this is the kit that Gaby mentions? However, I do
> realize that such a tool has its limits . . .
>
> Danielle
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bev Christian [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 11:14 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LF] Antw: Re: [LF] INTERPRETATION OF EU DIRECTIVES,
ETC.
>
> Gaby,
> What kit? I was speaking of an inductively coupled plasma optical
emission
> spectrometer, which costs close to $200K (US). And I also mentioned a
> Dremel tool. Here in North America a Dremel tool is a well known brand of
> a handheld multitool for grinding and sanding small objects (well usually
> not as small as 20 mil leads!)
> Bev
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabriela Bogdan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: August 25, 2004 11:04 AM
> To: (Leadfree Electronics Assembly Forum); Bev Christian
> Subject: Re: [LF] Antw: Re: [LF] INTERPRETATION OF EU DIRECTIVES, ETC.
>
>
> It was a theoretical question, and I hope too that we will not have to do
> such absurd tests.
> By the way- what is the sensitivity of the kits for lead checking?
> Does it make sense to introduce them in the incoming inspection?
> Gaby
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bev Christian" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 3:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [LF] Antw: Re: [LF] INTERPRETATION OF EU DIRECTIVES, ETC.
>
>
> > Guenter,
> > Then this totally takes me, the OEM, out of the picture for producing
the
> original data for the material contents. I am now totally captive of my
> suppliers (and their suppliers) to provide this information, since it is
> physically impossible to get that data myself. (And I am NOT going to be
> "Grinding or scraping" as Gaby mentioned, I hope factiously. And how
would
> I do that Gaby, with a Dremel tool?!) All I can do is perform an ICP-OES
> analysis to get overall cadmium and lead content of my PCBA (or perhaps
> individual components we suspect) as a validation of the data received
from
> my suppliers.
> > Bev Christian
> > RIM
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Guenter Grossmann [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: August 25, 2004 4:31 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [LF] Antw: Re: [LF] INTERPRETATION OF EU DIRECTIVES, ETC.
> >
> >
> > We had several requests already to do such an analysis. The problem is
> > not only the removal of the homogeneous material but the analysis down
> > to 0.1% isn't easy and costs a fortune.
> > In my opnion, the only possibility to go handle the legislation is a
> > delivery specification indicating that the parts delivered must comply
> > with the RoHS since only the producer is able, by avoiding non conformal
> > materials, to ensure RoHS compatibility.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Guenter
> >
> > EMPA
> > Swiss Federal Laboratories for Materials Testing and Research
> > Centre for Reliability
> > Guenter Grossmann, Senior Engineer
> >
> > 8600 Duebendorf
> > Switzerland
> >
> > Phone: xx41 1 823 4279
> > Fax : xx41 1 823 4054
> > mail: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
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