le's get the email addresses of the legislators in USA, Japan WEEE and
barrage them with email!!!

John Lynch

Jeff Cannis wrote:
>
> I have been following the arguments as they dance back and forth across my
> monitor. It amazes me that so many are still debating the logic behind the Pb
> free movement. Whether or not we can impact legislation in Europe or the US is
> irrelevant for the first wave of Pb free implementation. The Japanese industry
> is already moving in this direction. If your company has any interest in
> participating in this market, then you will need to prepare. This is purely a
> business decision, and not related to the environmental logic of the initiative.
> Those that continue to live in denial are making a conscious decision to say no
> to a very large segment of the electronics industry.
>
> I was hoping that this forum would be a place to exchange ideas regarding the
> materials and processes, the engineering nuts and bolts, for implementing Pb
> free electronics. However, the bulk of the messages appear to address only the
> "should we, or should we not" go Pb free. I think this suggestion was previously
> mentioned, but I'll bring it up again. Why don't we set up a second e-mail
> forum? We could have one forum for those that want to continue the debate, and
> keep one for the participants that want to get down to the business of Pb free
> assembly and processing. We could keep both camps happy, and they wouldn't have
> to be bothered with each other.
>
> Anyone who thinks we can get the message across to our political
> representatives, and have them act within a reasonable period of time, has more
> faith than I do in the European or US legislative processes. The time frame we
> are operating under is measured in months, not years, or decades. It seems that
> anytime we allow a governmental infrastructure to control our destiny, it is
> doomed to fail, or at least be a very painful ordeal. They just don't act at the
> speed of business.
>
> The bottom line is..... even if the Pb free initiative is fundamentally wrong,
> it is still proceeding. You can choose to prepare for it, ignore it, or fight
> it, but it is still going to happen. How fast and to what level, well that is a
> question only time will answer.
>
> Jeff Cannis
> Senior Staff Engineer
> Amkor Technology
> Phone: 480-821-2408  x5207
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> Roger Bilham <[log in to unmask]> on 08/16/2000 12:45:08 AM
>
> Please respond to "Leadfree Electronics Assembly E-Mail Forum."
>       <[log in to unmask]>; Please respond to Roger Bilham
>       <[log in to unmask]>
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>  To:      [log in to unmask]
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>  cc:      (bcc: Jeff Cannis/CHAZ/AAWW)
>
>  Subject: Re: [LF] Green congress
>
> Dear all,
>
> I don't think it is too late for good science to change the legislative
> approach to lead, even in Europe. The latest draft of the WEEE directive
> which I have seen (10 May 2000) requires lead to be substituted in most
> uses by 1 Jan 2008, with certain exemptions, such as CRT glass, light
> bulbs and electronic ceramic parts, listed in Annex II. These exemptions
> can be added to if the use of lead is unavoidable or "...where the
> negative environmentqal impacts caused by the substitution outweigh the
> possible environmental benefits...".
>
> This seems to be an enlightened approach from the legislators, with
> everything still to be played for.
>
> Regards,
> Roger Bilham
>
> In message <[log in to unmask]>, Matthias Mansfeld
> <[log in to unmask]> writes
> >On 15 Aug 00 at 14:36, Kasprzak, Bill (esd) USX wrote:
> >
> >> Gentlemen:
> >>
> >[...]
> >>
> >> Does anyone know what the exact position that is being taken in the
> >> US? Which way are we heading? What can we do to help?
> >>
> >
> >We should point out loudly and clearly that the alternatives we are
> >forced to use are mostly much worse for the environment (at least
> >globally seen. Perhaps you can catch the politicians with the
> >"correctness" of decisions which lead to more pollution, more
> >ecological and later social problens in these third world countries
> >where the alloy components come from).
> >
> >Perhaps we can demystify the marketing blahblah of some big consumer
> >electronic manufacturers "the first lead free mini disc player" - the
> >end user, not the industry needs to be informed that he doesn't help
> >the environment if he purchases a lead-free product, because it is
> >probably worse then before.
> >
> >But I feel (as far as I see here in Europe) now it is much too late
> >to stop or even to slow down the lead-free train.
> >
> >Just my two cents
> >Matthias Mansfeld
> >
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