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From:
Andrew Hoggan <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
Leadfree Electronics Assembly E-Mail Forum.
Date:
Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:00:38 +0100
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Hmmmm,

as a former materials supplier I take issue that current reflow ovens doing
a satisfactory job won't perform with lead-free materials. Most of the
soldering issues I've come across have at the root cause the 'satisfactory'
reflow oven - possibly unsatisfactory then.....

Haven't you come across eutectic tin silver in your career or been supplied
with the ternary tin silver copper eutectic? You should have a serious chat
with your suppliers or change them!

Regards

Andrew Hoggan
BBA Associates Ltd
www.bba-associates.ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jim Smith
Sent: 31 July 2001 17:51
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Industries With Worker Elevated Blood Lead Levels


Charles:

The most serious problem with banning lead does not involve the components.
It's the
attributes of the solder alternatives. They require higher temperatures. The
elevated
soldering temperatures lead inevitably to greater likelihood of heat-induced
component
failures as well as widespread need to replace currently satisfactory reflow
equipment that is
unable to achieve the higher thermal profiles. Then there's the issue of
wave soldering; I
have yet to see a successful demonstration of lead-free solder that, like
63/37 tin/lead
alloy, has absolutely no pasty range. Once a pasty range enters the picture,
wave soldering is
no longer viable.

Jim Smith
Managing Director
Cambridge Management Sciences, Inc.
4285 45th St. S.
St. Petersburg, FL 33711-4431
Tel: (727)866-6502 ext. 21
Fax: (727)867-7890
eMail: [log in to unmask]

Charles Dolci wrote:

> Harvey:
> Yes, Sun and others did get an exemption (so far, we don't know if that
> exemption will survive the final legislative reviews) for servers and
storage
> arrays.
> The problem with that is that it exempts a "use", not a product per se.
> Disk drives that are used in storage arrays are exempt, disk drives used
in PC's
> are not, even thought the disk drives may be otherwise identical.
> Microprocessors in servers are exempt, microprocessors in home electronics
are
> not, even though they may be otherwise identical (or nearly so).
> The problem is that 95% (my GUESS) of electronics are not exempt, so who
will
> supply the electronic components and parts for the exempted products? Can
that
> 5% of the market demand a leaded product? Is Texas Instruments going to
run two
> fab lines, one lead-free for 95% of the world, and one leaded for those
few
> customers that make servers?  Servers and storage arrays consume X% of the
> demand for disk drives. Will disk drive makers run two assembly lines, one
with
> lead, one without?
> As we all know, anything can be done, so it is not impossible; but the
question
> then becomes "what is the cost of that component that contains lead?"
> I just don't see, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, that the exemption does much
good.
>
> I hope I am wrong, I was once before.
>
> Chuck Dolci
>
> *MIME-Version: 1.0
> *Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> *From: Harvey Miller <[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject: Re: [LF] Industries With Worker Elevated Blood Lead Levels
> *X-To: [log in to unmask]
> *To: [log in to unmask]
> *
> *Chuck
> *You must know that servers were explicitly exempted from the lead ban on
May
> *15 by the EU Parliament, along with storage systems, etc.
> *
> *Sun Microsystems will not have to go lead-free to sell in Europe.
> *
> *But even if that were't the case, are we all supposed to give in to the
> *lead-free folly  without a fight?
> *
> *One way to fight for Truth is to support the IPC on two fronts.  Get your
> *company to support the IPC-EIA-EPA life cycle study iniatiative.
> *(Call David Bergman or Fern Abrams for information)  And support the IPC
> *(along with 35 other trade associations) suit against the EPA's
outrageous
> *100 pound reporting requirement for lead use.  It's based on the same
phoney
> *toxicity arguments that the extreme European fanatics used in starting
the
> *lead-free solder travesty.
> *
> *And write President Bush.  We have to help build some backbone in Japan
and
> *Europe, by example.  There really is a lot of intelligence there.  They
just
> *lack our independant spirit, but I hear things might be changing.
> *
> *Fight!
> *
> *Harvey Miller
> *
>
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