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Here in Texas, where there is no requirement to calibrate Smog Emission
Testing equipment, you pay the 30$, and if fail, either fix the car, or
drive on down the street and pay another 30$ at each station until you
get your car to pass.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John R. Sieber
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 7:35 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] RoHS: Proof of Supplier Component Compliance

Excuse me Chris, but emission testing stations, in Maryland at least,
give
you the test results.

I saw an early prototype of the IPC Standard 1572 Declaration form.  It
had
places for entry of values and units on the second page.  Perhaps Fern
Abram can verify this?  I'm sure we will discuss it at the NIST Workshop
Declarations Session on 10/6 because NIST is participating in the
development of the 157x series of standards.

John Sieber
NIST

At 05:23 AM 9/8/2005, you wrote:
>Have you 100% self test for every other operation or claim that vendors
>make for their products on existing D of C's - I doubt it. So why get
>paranoid now? Accepting D of C's is permissible but ought if
practicable
>be backed up by spot testing.
>
>
>
>Getting details of the composition is not a requirement of RoHS and
>would add significant burden to do so. Why push for more than is
>required - if too many people push then it will become a defacto
>requirement and then a mandatory requirement.
>
>
>
>
>
>Do you take your car home after a smog check and then take it to a lab
>to have it checked again or do you accept the smog station certificate?
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Chris
>
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>   _____
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>From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of jeff
>collins
>Sent: 08 September 2005 09:55
>To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
>Subject: RoHS: Proof of Supplier Component Compliance
>
>
>
>Group,
>
>
>
>I am finding several component suppliers ( many who are major mfr's )
>that will issue a COC or letter of conformity to RoHS but with no
>Evidence of compliance or even a breakdown of the weights or
percentages
>of the hazardous substances.
>
>
>
>Is anyone else having this issue? This puts us in a position where we
>either have to:
>
>
>
>* Blindly accept their COC/Letter of conformance and HOPE they really
>are compliant and do not exceed the hazardous threshold limits.
>
>
>
>* Have their components tested. ( An expensive option )
>
>* Change suppliers to one that can provide this info ( A very very
>painful and expensive option at this point )
>
>
>
>So I know this is a rhetorical question but how can they claim
>compliance for their components and not know the  Mass and % of Content
>of the banned substances?
>
>
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>
>Jeff Collins
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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