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I would agree with Chris in that the verbiage placed in 1.2 of IPC-6012C was intended as a stepping stone towards the eventual cancellation of IPC-6016 - it was not put there to direct people to IPC-6016.
In response to Scott's comments, we (IPC-6012, IPC-6013 and IPC-6018) have already begun the task of updating our respective documents with HDI requirements towards the cancellation of IPC-6016. Soon I will have a list of all the areas identified by each of the three task groups that need updating before we can properly send IPC-6016 to its grave.
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From: IPC-600-6012 [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Mahanna
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:42 PM
To: Listserv IPC-600-6012
Subject: Re: [IPC-600-6012] 6012 & 6016
IMO, legally the callout 6012 + 6016 needs to be reconciled on your front end before you tender the quote, sorry Joey.
For what it is worth, every OEM we work with has transitioned to waiving 6016 callouts, or removing it from the drawings. The big driver was wrap plating.
Also, I'm nearly 100% certain that 6012 + HDI (verbiage or features) does not imply a 6016 contract, even with the 6011 loop around.
Chris
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From: IPC-600-6012 [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jose A Rios
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:55 PM
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Subject: [IPC-600-6012] 6012 & 6016
6012C section 1.2, item 3 implies that 6016 always applies to rigid boards containing HDI features.
We see designs with HDI features with mixed callouts: some 6012 only, others 6012 & 6016.
Are both callouts to be treated equally?? I believe so, but I'd like to see how others interpret the above.
Joey Rios
PWB & Process Quality Eng'r
Endicott Interconnect Technologies
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Endicott, NY 13760
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