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Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]>
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Environmental Issues <[log in to unmask]>, Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:37:26 +0300
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Thanks for the compliments, Steve. Having worked with environmental
issues, both in and out of our industry, since 1975, although the
foundations were laid much earlier than that, I'm used to all kinds of
reactions from major awards to downright insults. I'll not respond to
Mr. Steele other than to suggest that if reading EnviroNet is a waste of
his time, he has only to unsubscribe.

Brian
http://www.cypenv.info/

Steve Gregory wrote:
> James,
> 
> Although I know Brian doesn't need me defending him. But James, I thinkyou may have stuck your foot in your mouth.
> 
> Brian is retired. But probably accomplishes more in his retirement thando most full-time working people.
> 
> I suggest that you learn more about this man. Once you do, I think you will find that your comments were at the least, needless, and at the most, insulting.
> 
> Steve  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EnviroNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of james steele
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:56 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [EN] What a waste From Economist.com
> 
>   What a waste of our time and your employer.----- Original Message -----
>   From: Brian Ellis<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>   To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>   Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:48 AM
>   Subject: Re: [EN] What a waste From Economist.com
> 
> 
>   Joe
> 
>   As it happens, I'm ¼-way through developing a web site devoted to the
>   problem of waste. It may be published in a couple of weeks or so. In the
>   meantime, have a look at http://www.cypenv.org/worldenv/files/tridel.htm<http://www.cypenv.org/worldenv/files/tridel.htm>
>   - this describes the most modern implementation of a technology first
>   developed in France in the 1920s and is used in odd spots in various
>   countries. In the USA, I know Baltimore does it although I believe their
>   plant is fairly old and polluting. There are probably many others. In
>   contrast, Toronto ships many tens of tonnes of their garbage daily to
>   Wayne County, Michigan, where it is landfilled at enormous cost to their
>   citizens and enormous quantities of emitted pollutants.
> 
>   China is building some low-pollution waste-burning power stations near
>   the big cities (Beijing, Chongqing, Shanghai etc.). Anyway, is it a sop
>   to the USA that China produces more waste, when it has >4x the
>   population? Surely the criterion is the per capita production, where the
>   USA (and Cyprus) have the doubtful honour of being world champions!
> 
>   Brian
> 
>   Joe Fjelstad wrote:
>   >
>   > Environment
>   > What a waste
>   > Sep 3rd 2008
>   >>From Economist.com
>   > The rubbish mountains grow
>   >
>   > OVER 2.1 billion tonnes of rubbish were dumped around the world last year.  
>   > Rich countries are the most wasteful, with each person chucking away 1.4kg of
>   > solid trash every day, but this has leveled off in recent years as the rich
>   > try  to create less of it and to recycle more. As poorer nations grow richer
>   > they  will produce more waste. In 2004 China surpassed America as the largest
>   > producer  of rubbish: by 2030 it will be churning out nearly 500m tonnes a  year.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
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>   > 
> 

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