Hi Chuck, Brian, Gordon, Joe, EnviroNetrs,

Thanks for your mutual discussion last year, with links, to the Stern Report 
and the media's criticisms. I like the WSJ which Chuck gave us, yet I think 
those two old ladies who kept this paper vital and unique are now dead. When 
one used to finish one of the WSJ columns years ago on a global or national 
issue you would leave with your brain scratching for an answer since they 
were so DARN balanced that you became confused by the complexity of the 
topic at hand. It seems like that old WSJ is now lost so my guess it that they 
are both dead or very old.

I thought The Stern Report was very interesting when it was released since it 
moved the key individuals in all of our 1st World societies to think about money 
and the future economic effects of reduced production and consumerism. 
Today far beyond science, money rules with politics and power next. Us, 
engineers world wide, get lost someplace down line of money and power.

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In watching one of my favorite, yet quite confrontational US political 
commentary programs "The MacLauglin Report"  http://www.mclaughlin.com/ . 
I was shocked by the GOP pundits on the panel. Tony B is with the 
Washington Times which one of you listed as a link. In general I do like both 
GOP people since they create a balance to Eleanor from NewsWeek.

So anyway, independent of Brian's comment, I have to support Brian's position 
that it seems like the US GOP has taken a position against Global Warming as a 
matter of politics.  As a registered member of the GOP  I DO NOT like it and 
know their position has NO Value.  Republicans used to go with the truth and 
money management, yet not anymore.


YiEngr, MA/NY DDave
Yours in Engineering, Dave